Logitech coming out with new HOTAS system

[skribetm]

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I think Microsoft dumped the precision pro series because they were so durable nobody bought them again. I know I still fly with my first. And sadly probably last - dunno what I'm going to do once it wears out. Logitech sells you the stick again after 6 months - huge boost to turnover.

As much as it sucks it makes no sense building durable consumer products.

[1701E]

i recognise that hatswitch from the 3D pro, which means it will wear out after 6 months, rendering the setup almost useless (unless you use trackIR i suppose). the nasty "clack" when he flips out the carpet grip says alot about the build quality. it wont be getting any of my hard-earned.

The same noise is made on the Steering wheel set pedals I have, and they are built very well.  They have lasted through 2 years of my torture and holding strong.
Also the HastSwitch looks more like the one on the Saitek Av8tr, Logitech 3D has an inward dimple much larger then that, and the 3D is more flat-ish.  I finally retired my 3D pro after 1 3/4 years due to a slight calibration issue that got too annoying.

Whenever I can justify 300$ on one product, I may try it, or maybe the price will drop by the time I look into it.

[Vulcan]

Looks good, I better start saving.

[OOZ662]

I finally retired my 3D pro after 1 3/4 years due to a slight calibration issue that got too annoying.

This is exactly the issue with Logitec joysticks. Their potentiometers are utter trash. Calibration falls out and massive spiking eventually renders all of their sticks unusable, generally in under six months. There are some wonder stories of lasting years and years, but they're definetly not the norm.

If this stick has improved pots or even pots from out of house, I'd gladly buy it. Even then, it's hard to go to a Best Buy or something, play with it, and be able to tell that four months later the pots will die.

[1701E]

This is exactly the issue with Logitech joysticks. Their potentiometers are utter trash. Calibration falls out and massive spiking eventually renders all of their sticks unusable, generally in under six months. There are some wonder stories of lasting years and years, but they're definetly not the norm.

If this stick has improved pots or even pots from out of house, I'd gladly buy it. Even then, it's hard to go to a Best Buy or something, play with it, and be able to tell that four months later the pots will die.

True the sticks normally don't hold out long, but if they are going to make something this expensive, one can only hope they would use higher end parts.  I use Logitech for everything I can except joystick for now (had to find something cheap at BestBuy), and have never had troubles with durability on anything else.  I just hope this is a turning point for them in that area.
I will likely try it after a year or so, give people time to test it.  I just hope this Saitek one lasts that long, Not really willing to spend more on Saitek or current Logitech Sticks.

[RTSigma]

I just like the non-centered ability of the joystick. Even with my CH Fighterstick I can tell when I hit center and roll from left to right or pull back or push down.

Then again, this is Logitech. I've had nothing of theirs, save for their mice and webcams last years. My MX540 mouse still works wonderfully after all these years. As for joysticks...well. I got a cemetery.

I would like to see CH use that joystick function though.

[Infidelz]

This is exactly the issue with Logitec joysticks. Their potentiometers are utter trash. Calibration falls out and massive spiking eventually renders all of their sticks unusable, generally in under six months. There are some wonder stories of lasting years and years, but they're definetly not the norm.

If this stick has improved pots or even pots from out of house, I'd gladly buy it. Even then, it's hard to go to a Best Buy or something, play with it, and be able to tell that four months later the pots will die.

I watched the Vid. It has no pots or contacts that wear out in the main axis. Not sure about the rotary switches.

Infidelz

[Max]

I watched the Vid. It has no pots or contacts that wear out in the main axis. Not sure about the rotary switches.

Infidelz

Saitek uses the same "contactless" technology on the X52. Seems to me that threads are always surfacing regarding calibration issues on the X52. Did anyone happen to notice how flimsy the "throw" of the joystick was in the video? Maybe I'll be proven wrong but I'll stick (pun intended ) with my CH set-up.

[Lye-El]

Saitek uses the same "contactless" technology on the X52. Seems to me that threads are always surfacing regarding calibration issues on the X52.

My X52 Pro uses Hall effect sensors. Seldom do I recalibrate. The X-52 does not use these sensors as I recall. My X45 didn't last a year but the X-52 Pro is still going strong. More expensive but worth it. Love having no pots to start spiking or wearing the centers out.

[Ack-Ack]

Nothing gets made in the USA anymore. Well, aside from multi-trillion dollar deficits that is.

CH Products are made in the USA, everything is made at their offices in Vista.


ack-ack

[OOZ662]

My X52 Pro uses Hall effect sensors. The X-52 does not use these sensors as I recall.

Not sure how the Pro works, but the vanilla X52 uses Hall Effect sensors on the X and Y axis with potentiometers in the rudder twist and throttle.

[TilDeath]

Everyone seems to be oooooooooooo ahhhhhhhhhh over this.  I like a few others here like the 3DPro but they die after a few months.  For the cost of this setup you can get all CH gear and not have to worry about something breaking in 2 to 6 months

[caldera]

leary

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

And wouldn't you know they made it only for right handers... haruph!

leery

Sorry, I couldn't help myself either. 

[Charge]

"Did anyone happen to notice how flimsy the "throw" of the joystick was in the video?"

I think that the FFB centers the stick when it is powered. Even if my HOTAS Cougar still works by the time that one is released I might buy one unless it has a huge defect that cannot be overcome by modding.

-C+