Follow up to the Buffalo

[Rich46yo]

Heres my vote. http://www.warbirdalley.com/rata.htm

A re-enactment of that war http://www.winterwar.com/mainpage.htm would be fun. But now we need an early war Soviet fighter.

We could also do a Spanish civil war with it. A Khalkin-Gol incident.....ect

[Castle51]

Sounds like another one of those cases regarding putting the planes everybody wants on hold to add a fighter that outside of special events will just get its A#% kicked all up and down the MA.

[apcampbell]

Sounds like another one of those cases regarding putting the planes everybody wants on hold to add a fighter that outside of special events will just get its A#% kicked all up and down the MA.

Out of curiousity, what aircraft would those be?

To counter your comment, I would point out that the FSO is averaging approximately 500 pilots on any given Friday night. I've never flown the senarios, but it seems reasonable that special events are a huge part of the game now. The "hangar queens" as everyone refers to them, will, and do play a major part of making each event more realistic. There's more to Aces high than just dusting it up in the MA's

Question, does anyone have the number averages for the senarios?

[Masherbrum]

Sounds like another one of those cases regarding putting the planes everybody wants on hold to add a fighter that outside of special events will just get its A#% kicked all up and down the MA.

Care to rattle off some of the "existing fighters"?

[Castle51]

not exactly in every case but wasn't the P-39 a widely requested add on to the game only to become a "drag queen"

  I understand it would still be useful in the FSO and special event's, being why I mentioned that in the first place if you all were paying attention to my last post.  But in the MA (Main Arena) it would probably just get owned 9 times out of 10.  Not exactly sure but I heard it was replaced by the F4F wildcat in WWII and that even bird doesn't hardly see the use it should.

[Masherbrum]

not exactly in every case but wasn't the P-39 a widely requested add on to the game only to become a "drag queen"

  I understand it would still be useful in the FSO and special event's, being why I mentioned that in the first place if you all were paying attention to my last post.  But in the MA (Main Arena) it would probably just get owned 9 times out of 10.  Not exactly sure but I heard it was replaced by the F4F wildcat in WWII and that even bird doesn't hardly see the use it should.

For years this Community called the Ki-61 a "POS".   While they still will, there is a certain "respect" for the bird as I and others embarrassed many in it.   

[Castle51]

And I'm sure people would hold this plane with that same respect were it to be added.  I just think we should focus on adding aircraft that will see more all around use instead of just for certain scenarios.

[BnZs]

Anything that can turn as well or better than average is guaranteed a certain number of kills from those who attempt to turn with it.

[Motherland]

And I'm sure people would hold this plane with that same respect were it to be added.  I just think we should focus on adding aircraft that will see more all around use instead of just for certain scenarios.

Why? No matter what you add things will stay much the same in the MA, or merely shift from one plane to another.
Beside some bombers you could argue to be added (Tu-2 and the A-26), pretty much whatever you add, the game will continue to be dominated by the same aircraft. We already have the best of the best, now it's time to fill in the rest.

[BnZs]

For years this Community called the Ki-61 a "POS".   While they still will, there is a certain "respect" for the bird as I and others embarrassed many in it.   

Shot down a Hog and HellKitty first time I flew it, in FSO. I'd call it superior to the Zero, all things considered.

[Castle51]

Why? No matter what you add things will stay much the same in the MA, or merely shift from one plane to another.
Beside some bombers you could argue to be added (Tu-2 and the A-26), pretty much whatever you add, the game will continue to be dominated by the same aircraft. We already have the best of the best, now it's time to fill in the rest.

So people will still fly lancs and 17s if we had B-29s and He-177s?

don't get me wrong, I'm not against this plane at all.  I just think there would be better things that HTC could throw their time at like giving the Russians and Italians more toys to play with instead of giving us another out of date fighter.

[Motherland]

So people will still fly lancs and 17s if we had B-29s and He-177s?

The majority of people will still fly B17's and Lancasters if those two are added because;
The B29 would have to be perked so it will remain fairly rare,
and the He177 doesn't carry any of the name recognition that the B17, B24, Lancaster etc. hold. Even in the MA this is important, as evidenced by the popularity of the P51.
Also I think that many bomber pilots would not like the He 177 because of the guns; 20mms sound sweet, but with the popularity of the M2 .50 cal and it's insane velocity and laser flat trajectory, I think learning a new harder to aim gun, that you can't hit people at 1.0k+ with, would be too much for many.

[Castle51]

I think both bombers should be perked if added.  The B-29 for obvious reasons that still have fighter jocks and furballers whining and bickering in about twenty other threads, and the He-177 because if not it would just become another giant suicide machine.  although 177stuka just doesnt have the same ring to it.

   As a matter of fact, I think they should perk all bombers that hold more than 4000lbs of ord. in my opinion.

[Sakai]

And I'm sure people would hold this plane with that same respect were it to be added.  I just think we should focus on adding aircraft that will see more all around use instead of just for certain scenarios.

If you have 10 planes that see all the use?  A new one either won't crack that list or will replace one of those ten for the most part. 

[trigger2]

not exactly in every case but wasn't the P-39 a widely requested add on to the game only to become a "drag queen"

  I understand it would still be useful in the FSO and special event's, being why I mentioned that in the first place if you all were paying attention to my last post.  But in the MA (Main Arena) it would probably just get owned 9 times out of 10.  Not exactly sure but I heard it was replaced by the F4F wildcat in WWII and that even bird doesn't hardly see the use it should.

I don't think that the P-39 was replaced by the F4F as the P-39 was land based and the F4F was more of a naval plane, so, don't know for sure, but I'd assume that's like saying that AWACS replaced the battleship...

I think that hanger queens get the nickname they do because of the widespread use of the 'uber' planes. Hell, the p-39's always a fun ride, the mossy, a blast (got a good pic of my mossy blowing a p39 outta the sky.  ), it's all about who wants to take the time to learn them. Each plane has it's plus and minuses. And part of being a good 'pilot' is knowing how to use your planes disadvantages to your advantage. Take the p-40 for example, slow and stalls easy, put her into a good stall fight and and pull up, stall your plane out, work the stall, and you can easily have the upper hand. Knowing your aircraft is 3/4 of the battle. The other 1/4 is who's in the other plane.