Niki is a UFO freak....

[GRUNHERZ]

But its so nice vs. the freak Chog! Cool how that all works out, huh?

[Tac]

yeah, cv launches chogs, field launches n1ks... and we can as well throw the rest of the AC into the toilet      

[Karnak]

The F4U-1C has 25173 kills and has been killed 18059 times.

The N1K2 has 11872 kills and has been killed 11545 times.

Yeah, that N1K2 sure is up there with the F4U-1C isn't it?  I mean, its got a whole 47% of the kills that the F4U-1C does.

Yeesh.

Other samples:

The Spitfire Mk IX has 10714 kills and has been killed 11363 times.

The Ostwind has 10369 kills and has been killed 4797 times.

The La-7 has 6757 kills and has been killed 5454 times.

The Ship Gunner has 6504 kills and has been killed 13 times.

The P-51D has 5894 kills and has been killed 6464 times.

The Bf 109G-10 has 5058 kills and has been killed 4375 times.

The F4U-1D has 5063 kills and has been killed 5669 times.

The PT Boat has 4772 kills and has been killed 7870 times.

The Panzer IV H has 4572 kills and has been killed 3641 times.

The Fw 190D-9 has 4505 kills and has been killed 3030 times.

The SeaFire has 4195 kills and has been killed 5441 times.

It seems to me that there are three distinct groups at the top.  The contents of the groups might vary depending on the map, but the level of the groups seems consistant.  The groups in Tour 15 seem to be:

The clear top group (not really a group given it only has one unit i it) consists of:

F4U-1C

The 2nd group contains 3 units, clearly below the top group and yet clearly above the lower of the top three groupings:

N1K2-J
Spitfire F.MkIXc
Ostwind

The bottom of the three groups contains the rest of the commonly used units:

La7
Ship Gunner
P-51D
Bf109G-10
F4U-1D
PT Boat
Panzer IV H
Fw190D-9
Seafire

All other units in AH have less than 4000 kills.  Only the Italians lack a unit in one of these top groups and the Russians and Japanese only have one each (admittedly the Japanese have the 2nd place unit).

Adding the G.55 and Re.2005 might give an Italian fighter a shot at entering the third group.
Adding a Ki84 might significantly reduce the N1K2's frequency.
Adding a Yak3 might give the Russians another top performer.
Changing the vehicle armor might reduce the number of F4U-1Cs.


For humors sake:

The M-3 has 416 kills and has been killed 1401 times.

The C.202 has 255 kills and has been killed 502 times.

The C-47A has 184 kills and has been killed 3303 times.

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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother

Bring the Spitfire F.MkXIVc to Aces High!!!

Sisu
-Karnak

[airspro]

One reason the UFO doesn't have more kills might be some players won't fly it because they believe it has a shit FM

I happen to be one of those .

[BUG_EAF322]

I would not even toejam in a NIK  

[MANDOBLE]

Agree airspro, exactly like Spit (check roll rate) or Hog (check everything).

[R4M]

 

Originally posted by airspro:
One reason the UFO doesn't have more kills might be some players won't fly it because they believe it has a toejam FM

I happen to be one of those .

Uhm? toejam FM? how come?

It accelerates like a 109G10 and climbs with it, being 1000lbs heavierr. It dives with a Fw190A8, being 2000 lighter. Tunrs in a dime,and stands more damage than a P38.

It can hang on prop for 10 seconds without the slighest problem, becaue Torque is NOT a problem (why should it be? it is only a plane with a 2000hp engine and a light airframe, nothing else)

And it can do amazing 180º turns,outzooming a bouncing plane after it with no problem. BUt if DOEST NOT have Weird E-retention. Its just on spot  

 



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[air_reaper]

Ayeee spro your 100% right.

[brady]

  I think more people do not fly the George because, it is a not a US plane, obviously US planes and equipment are more popular why else would HTC model way more US stuff than enything else?,(BTW I am not one of the people who love US stuff  )also u cant use it well against ground targets, the C hog kills everyting in the game with ease,the George does not. The C hog also hits at almost 3 times the range as the George. IMO no matter what the flight sim no matter who models it and no matter what century we are in people will always squeak and moan over the George. A late war fighter that turns almost as good as a Zero and preforms almost as well as a Late war us carrier fighter who's arament hits like a ton of bricks is bound to fly in the face of convention.Historicaly the George is one of the most outstanding fighters of al time, emboding all that the Japanese believed a fighter should be a superlative turner namely, and benefiting from the lessons learned from their mistakes in the Zero and other fighters. Better protection a more robust airframe and a heaver aramement. I am not arguing that the FM is porked or not but Just how would expect such a plane to preform?


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[Zigrat]

my argument is not that teh n1k is too good. I believe it was and is a superlative fighter. Its just that you prideless bastards are willing to fly the damned thing  

Some of us enjoy flying and killing for teh challenge. Just no challenge when in a n1k  

[AG Sachsenberg]

I agree with brady and Zigrat, I bounced a N1k in my D-9 today and guess what?  I could not out distance it until it was to late, BTW the Type 99's hitting out to 1k whats up with that?  What fun is it to fly a plane that is so easy to fly and has such a large amount of ammo turns on a dime accelerates better then it should, climbs like a banshee, lasts forever on a half tank of gas.  

I am sorry but the 2 planes that need to be perked are the N1k and Chog, but if you perk those unperk the 152, then you will see an influx into the Spit 9 and La-7 guarantee it.

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[brady]

 I can't hit toejam over 400 or 500k in the George, maby that's me i dont know.It should go forever on a half tank it had great range, but a P51 or a Zero will go farther on 50% fuel than a George will.BTW how do know it accelerates better than it should?, my experence is that a lot of planes out  accelerate it, In fact just about everything is faster than it is. BTW I do fly it from time time but it represents only about 1/8 of my kills for this tour maby 1/7th.The reasion, I like to try different mounts and it is easy to fly, therfore it get's old after a bit.

      SRY spell check is down gent's

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[SOB]

The entire 109 series is overmodelled and fly like a modern fighter with thrust vectoring.  And don't even get me started on the 202 & 205...

whine whine whine, cry cry cry, etc.


SOB

[GRUNHERZ]

SOB has a point, the BS that is the c202 FM has far too long gone undisclosed. It must stop!!! And those guns- unbelivable murderers.

Dont even get me started on the AH unbalancing C47.

[MANDOBLE]

Perhaps this impresion is due I fly A8, but it seems anything the Nikki do, the CHog can do and almost better, except plain turning. E retention seems similar in both planes. I've seem a lot of times Hogs braking in the air using a lot of rudder, turn in half a dime and then, 300 mph again is two seconds, and this over'n over. I've never seen a Nikki doing inversions like the Hog, only doing incredible horizontal turns. But HOG can go N and half a second later he is going S.