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Offline Hristo

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« on: July 07, 2000, 01:33:00 AM »
Luftwaffe planes in AH:

Bf 109F-4 (1941)
Slow, decent turner, weak guns, poor durability. Can run away only from TnBers.
Usually meat for gangbangers.

Bf 109G-2 (1942)
Better than F-4, but still very similar.
Meat for gangbangers.

Me 109G-6 (1942)
Most things worse than G-2, better guns though, but still weak. Many planes will outperform you in most apsects. Watch out for gangbangs.

Me 109G-10 (1944)
With FM tweaks it is not what it used to be. Once competent, now it is pretty hard to stay alive in this one. The plane can't handle its own engine power   Still, it can make some great escapes. All US planes except P-38L will catch you in dive, however.

Fw 190A-5 (1943)
Nice allround plane, but not best in anything (except roll). Too slow for 1944 monsters, Often gets ganbanged or outrun by late war splanes. Very fun to fly, but it might leave you frustrated if you get to fight many P 51Ds or P 47s. All US planes catch you in dive (not sure about P 38L).

Fw 190A-8 (1944)
Requires very careful flying, almost opportunistic   Not a turner, very poor E-fighting potential, not much to do when on defense. Still, can run from mid war planes.
All US planes catch you in dive, except P-38L.


US planes Luftwaffe faces:

F4U-1D (1943)
If you see it, take a screenshot - this is a rare sighting. It can dive away from any Luftwaffe plane.

F4U-1C (1943 ?)
Chosen by unknown criteria, this plane entered the AH planeset and caused...you know it already   Can dive away from any Luftwaffe plane.

P-38L (1944)
Cool plane, able to give any Luftwaffe plane a hard time, unless its pilot makes a mistake and goes to scissor A-5 or something like that. Unbeatable at extremely high altitudes. Fastest Luftwaffe divers can catch it.

P-47D (1944)
Mr. Snapshot   It can surprise some planes by sometimes incredible TnB performance. Able to outdive any Luftwaffe plane.

P-51D (1944)
Excellent plane for staying alive. Firepower seems to have recieved a boost in latest revision, so no more assists. Able to outdive any Luftwaffe plane.


Appologies to VVS, RAF and IJA/IJN types. This post deals with LW vs US only.

Luftwaffe has only 2 1944 planes, and even they have "...but..." attached to them. Either is is a buff hunter or an old airframe brought to 1944 standards.

Luftwaffe needs a competent 1944 plane. Able to dive with US iron and fight them on their own terms. Not a "1944 plane", but a real one. Something able to dive with opportunists and catch them on the deck. Something historical. D-9 and 262.

Thank you

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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2000, 01:42:00 AM »
D-9 is an obvious choice, and I'm certain we'll see it.
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Offline gatt

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2000, 02:24:00 AM »

Yes, give us a D-9. Soon.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2000, 07:58:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Hristo:


Me 109G-6 (1942)
Most things worse than G-2, better guns though, but still weak. Many planes will outperform you in most apsects. Watch out for gangbangs.

Fw 190A-5 (1943)
Nice allround plane, but not best in anything (except roll). Too slow for 1944 monsters, Often gets ganbanged or outrun by late war splanes. Very fun to fly, but it might leave you frustrated if you get to fight many P 51Ds or P 47s. All US planes catch you in dive (not sure about P 38L).



I think the G6 is greatly under-estimated preformence wise. A G10 it ain't but I still find it very fast through all altitudes and gladly trade the G10's power for a more stable gun platform   Methink's it's greatest asset is people thinking it's a G10.
Only real problem planes are Wulfs, G10, Yak, and the 51. It's pretty much even with the rest of the US planes.

I don't fly the A5 but it sure scares me some times. Always getting gangbanged by them  

I'd really like to see the D-9 but given the popularity of the A5, I wonder how many people would trade the A5's manuverability for the D-9's speed. I guess the fewer the better tho, eh?  

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Offline juzz

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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2000, 07:59:00 AM »
"Everyone other than the USAAF" bombers in AH:

Yeah, right. Like any other country flew bombers during WW2!  

Fw 190D-9
La-7
Tempest Mk V

All released together would be ideal.
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Offline LLv34_Camouflage

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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2000, 08:05:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Hristo:
Bf 109G-2 (1942)
Meat for gangbangers.

I disagree!  

I'd like to see the Dora also.

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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2000, 08:16:00 AM »
Great.. let's look at UK planeset:

Spitfire 5 - one of the two worst planes in AH. Slow, doesn't climb, doesn't dive and doesn't roll. Only C202 can be precieved as worst ...

Spitfire 9 F - 1942 plane. Wholly inadiquate in 1945 standards of AH.
Too slow. Almost everything can run away from it.
Including Niki...

Typhoon - it's fast when you run ... and .... it's fast when you run...
It sucks above 15k and can't climb for toejam... and it's fast when you run...
Good gun thou..

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Here you have it. Highly competetive planeset for RAF in AH.

Now, where is my Spitfire 14 ???


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Offline Dnil

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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2000, 11:09:00 AM »
I agree with ya FD, RAF is lacking.  I just think the spit 14 is too good.  I fear it may become Spits High if its released, maybe the perk system would help dunno.  She is a beauty and could wreak some major damage.

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Offline Hristo

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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2000, 11:43:00 AM »
RAF is lacking, I agree. In fact, everything else except US planeset is lacking.

RAF types, how about joined efforts to bring in Spit XIV and Dora ?

I will do it first:

Bring Spit XIV to AH !
Bring Dora to AH !

 
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Offline SnakeEyes

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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2000, 12:10:00 PM »
I'm surprised that the P38L won't catch a 109 in a dive...

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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2000, 12:16:00 PM »
Correct me if I am wrong, but, in the 'L' model P38, didn't they just 'prevent' compression by adding the air brake, thus not allowing the pilot to compress?  Or did the L model actually allow the P38 driver to indeed go faster in a dive?

Seems to me that the 109's best dfense from swarming allied fighters was to dive away, and they were successful in doing so many times in books I've read.
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Offline juzz

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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2000, 12:46:00 PM »
In AH the P-38L compresses at about Mach 0.7 or even lower. The dive flaps just let you pull out of compressed dives, which means you can go faster, I guess. You start loosing bits eventually, once IAS builds too much though.  

The Me 109 will go to Mach 0.8 or so before it locks up. Of course most of the time the stick is solid long before then anyway because it's flying over 400mph IAS.
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2000, 02:40:00 PM »
Hristo add La-7 and Ki-84 to that list.  

Let's all join hands!!!

 
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2000, 02:49:00 PM »
Lets all have a group hug, Funky  Munky!

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Offline DrSoya

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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2000, 02:08:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Dnil:
I agree with ya FD, RAF is lacking.  I just think the spit 14 is too good. (...)  She is a beauty and could wreak some major damage.

Being too good should have nothing to do with it. It's a 1944 RAF plane. Period.

Besides, I don't really get it. Many seem to think the Spit14 would kick any plane's ass, even with the worst pilot. I strongly doubt it.

If it's modeled right, I think it would be very difficult to handle, would not turn well, and wouldn't even be the fastest plane in the game. It would have a great tendency to flip in a tight turn, and I doubt people would choose it as the all-around fighter.

I don't have any data, I'm just a player, but if I judge from the release of the Spit14 in WB, the Spit14 would not be the uberplane everyone is afraid of. (HT and Pyro were the ones responsible for its modeling in WB, right?)

I don't mind seeing a FW190D-9, but it should be introduced with the Spitfire Mark XIV.

I wouldn't mind a KI-84 too.  


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