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Offline vipe

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Can this maneuver be pulled off in AH?
« on: June 20, 2009, 04:05:02 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBfwXT_S70o

the first man. he pulls is just insane. is this possible?

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Re: Can this maneuver be pulled off in AH?
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2009, 04:12:33 PM »
Yes just not as drastic and the recovery would trash most of you E and you would have to chase after them.
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Re: Can this maneuver be pulled off in AH?
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2009, 05:59:31 PM »
I would say SEARCH because it has been discussed more than once.  One reeealy long thread with how-to's too, but I wouldn't know what to search for.

I'll see what I can find.


edit: search so far:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,260968.0.html


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Re: Can this maneuver be pulled off in AH?
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2009, 06:28:59 PM »
I would say SEARCH because it has been discussed more than once.  One reeealy long thread with how-to's too, but I wouldn't know what to search for.

I'll see what I can find.


edit: search so far:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,260968.0.html


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The video Vipe is talking about isn't that flatplate maneuver..  And to my knowledge, this is the 1st discussion based on this particular (Candeleria's)..
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Re: Can this maneuver be pulled off in AH?
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2009, 07:12:30 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBfwXT_S70o

the first man. he pulls is just insane. is this possible?

Its a rudder skid and yes its done daily but as already said you'd lose too much E and would end up chasing especially when u miss the shot  :D

This has been on the boards before a few yrs back but so what.  Whats remarkable is in this game we get another chance to perfect the wildest of maneuvers.  This guy had 1 chance only .... well done  :salute

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Re: Can this maneuver be pulled off in AH?
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2009, 08:03:45 PM »
yes
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Re: Can this maneuver be pulled off in AH?
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2009, 08:12:49 PM »
Yes, it does work, it work's very well. But as stated before you lose most of your E and would end up chasing after em. That's why you wait till they're very close, say 400-200 or less, at that range it's definitely very risky, especially since that is the kill zone for most pilots.
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Re: Can this maneuver be pulled off in AH?
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2009, 09:22:19 PM »
I dont believe its possible in this game, if it is I would like to see a film.

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Re: Can this maneuver be pulled off in AH?
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2009, 09:45:23 PM »
I don't see why you couldn't do it.

The question is, whether or not Dogfight's portrayal of the maneuver is accurate.
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Re: Can this maneuver be pulled off in AH?
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2009, 10:02:20 PM »
I dont believe its possible in this game, if it is I would like to see a film.
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Re: Can this maneuver be pulled off in AH?
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2009, 12:46:41 AM »
I don't know that it is possible in the game either. I tried to replicate it. I dropped fro 15k to 1k to get some speed. but i didn't have enough rudder input to skid around like that.
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Re: Can this maneuver be pulled off in AH?
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2009, 04:48:17 AM »
I'll play the cocky bastard here.  It was discussed here, a number of separate times, and if it's doable, it won't be easy to pull off.  There's some other plane that I fly non-stop since it was added ~7 years ago, and a number of maneuvers as off the wall as Candelaria's require you to control the plane exactly right, not fraction of a second too early or soon nor an inch too short or far.  I've pulled them off a few times and probably couldn't on demand right now, even after a whole night of practicing them.  e.g. a Cobra (slightly canted but identical in function and sequence), or something functionally identical and visually only a bit different from that twirl by Candelaria. 
It's very difficult to pull em off correctly, and random players, who by all appearances don't have much stick time in the game, can't credibly just dismiss it as impossible.
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Re: Can this maneuver be pulled off in AH?
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2009, 09:27:41 AM »
I said SHOW ME THE MONEY.




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Re: Can this maneuver be pulled off in AH?
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2009, 09:32:11 AM »
I've got no reason to step in this one other than telling the truth :)
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Re: Can this maneuver be pulled off in AH?
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2009, 09:47:30 AM »
I'll go with moot on this one.  If you actually can pull off a manouver like that it's likely only going to be once.

I was flying a Typhoon one day being chased by 3-4 cons.  I pulled the nose up and as they gained on me I tried to drop the left wing to turn against the engine torque.  The torque was so great and I was so slow the wing wouldn't dip so I cranked in full left rudder.  The plane did a complete 180 degree flat spin and I was facing directly back at my opponents.

Now I realize that's not the same manuver but try as I might I've never been able to repeat it.  So, that's  a manouver that is possible but the likelyhood of being able to pull it off is very slim as conditions have to be exactly right.
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