The general responsiveness of fighters leads to a lot of smelly,gamy play too. Most of all stick stirring. You might be surprised at whom Ive caught "stick stirring", which you really cant do in an IL-2 cause its to big and unresponsive. But the point being is if we blamed every aircraft for the gamy play done in it we would have any aircraft we couldn't call "gamy".
The Issue with IL-2 overshoots, and we'll assume its an IL-2 stick who knows what hes doing, is the first thing he'll do is bring you Low, where the fighter stick also gets nervous about being "slow" as well. Next he's going to judge your "E" state coming in, bring the IL-2 right above stall "which is slow" and make that one turn/alt change the IB fighter just cant respond to fast enough. You'd be amazed at how many fighters then stay flat and turn after wards instead of using the vertical. If your "E" state is higher, and probably also if it isn't, theres no way the IL-2 is going to be able to climb with you. If you get clipped by an IL-2 after an overshoot then you are doing something wrong.
Guys were talking about a bomber that has a top speed of about 257 mph and climb rate of about 2,000' per minute. Even planes like the Mustang and Corsair are far better climbers, retain energy far better, roll far better, turn better or far better. I'm only average in fighter plane skills but I "never" have a problem with IL-2s. Maybe some people need to fly them and learn both their strengths and weaknesses.
Conversely, when flying IL-2s, some of the idiotic stunts I see fighter sticks do are incredible. I mean who would upp a P-38, fly across two sectors, and then HO an IL-2 in one pass? All in that order.
Lastly, and here is the important point, with "most" of the fighters I kill in my IL-2s "F-3" views have nothing to do with it. Killing by over shoot is by far a minority compared to killing fighter planes due to the sheer ineptitude of the fighter plane stick.
