Rating system for AH fighters

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[Tony Williams]

 

Originally posted by RAM:
 

The MGFF has very bad ballistics,low muzzle velocity and relatively low hitting power. Being on the extreme of the wings mean too that their dispersion is higher, and harder to hit with them. And last, but not less important, as we lack the switch to select individual cannon fire in the 190, you must fire all the cannons at the same time, and the MGFF screws my aim completely. (Same happens to me with the MGs, thats why I always only fire cannons, never MGs, in the 190)

 The MGFFs are not worth the weight they mean so I simply dont load them in the Fw190A5.

The MG-FFM fired a 92g M-Geschoss at 700m/s, at a rate of 9 per second.  The MG 151/20 fired the same shell at 800m/s at 11 per second.  The effect of a strike on a target would be the same, as the destructive effect of M-Geschoss depends on the HE content, not kinetic energy.

The MG 151 was clearly a better gun, but the MG-FFM was still useful.

Tony Williams
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[Tony Williams]

 

Originally posted by Vermillion:
Tony, as Straffo said, the Yak-9U in Aces High only has the standard armament of x2 12.7mm UBS MG's and the single ShVak 20mm cannon.

Well, the UBS was as good as an M2, and the ShVAK about three times better, so the armament was equivalent in hitting power to five M2.  Furthermore, it was possibly better than the six M2 armament of USAAF planes as all of the guns were centrally mounted, so you didn't get the harmonisation problem.

Tony Williams
Author: "Rapid Fire: The development of automatic cannon, heavy machine guns and their ammunition for armies, navies and air forces"
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[RAM]

Tony, just believe me. If we had the switch to fire individual cannons only, then I'd agree that the MGFF in AH is worth something.

As it is, it screws up the aiming bigtime. And while I dont doubt that it could fire the mine-shell, I can tell you that if in AH it is modelled, then I haven't noticed. In fact I get more kills with 2 cannons than with four. And the RoF of this weapon sux.

MGFFs are not worth the weight. I dont say they serve for no purpose (hell any 20mm can do good damage) as the 7.92mm does, but I say that its performance are not worth the aim screwing it produces,and the added weight it means.

Maybe with the selector switch to fire individual cannons in the 190 the aim screwing would be a thing of the past, and then maybe I'd load this cannon. But as it is now, no, I dont load it.

[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 01-18-2001).]

[Pongo]

This rating system will not work as it does not ballance the relitive importance of the stat.
IE
Fire power should be rated from 1 to 15 and range should be rated 1 to 3
In the war range was increadibly important. But in AH it is not.
That would show why the Chog is selected so much. It has a 15 for firepower. The Typhoon has a 13 and the Niki a 12. The P51 gets an 7, the 2 cannon A5 gets a 7 the 2 Cannon A8 gets an 8. The P47 would be arround 10 the G6 would get a 5 with the G6 R6 getting a 10.