I love my 190 a5!

[funked]

Lazs have you done any roll tests?  Both those planes roll like crazy when I fly them!  Here are some NACA roll rate data:  http://www.rdrop.com/users/hoofj/nacaroll.htm

If you compare these to the roll data in AHT, it indicates the 190 should roll a little better.

Acceleration is directly related to climb as Wells has demonstrated many times.  If a plane can outclimb another plane at a given speed, it will also out-accelerate a plane at that speed.

As far as the turn, HT said he is looking into it, which is good.  However note that the F4U is still turning a much smaller radius than the 190, which can be used to beat the 190 in a slow-speed turning match.

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[Rude]

Whew...I jus read this whole thread for the first time without a break...I'm worn out

Frankly, most times I die is due to poor judgement on my part...I wish I could blame HTC or the FM.

Personally I'm happy for the LW guys...hopefully HTC wont change a thing regarding the A-5...half the fun for me is learning how to deal with these guys and their rides...added bonus, no LW whinin!

Oh and Zig...I fly my 51 100 fuel every sortie...thanks for callin me an idiot.

And I thought we were pals

Cyas Up!

Rude Out!

[sourkraut]

My observations on A5 -
sourkrau has 114 kills and has been killed 130 times. K/D - 0.88
sourkrau has 27 kills and has been killed 10 times in the Fw 190A-5. K/D - 2.70

God, my scores are embarrassing. One reason for the improvement is that I have used the A5 for A-A combat, exclusively (no A-G). Prior to this I have been flying the G10 almost exclusively for A-A combat and the F4U1C (sorry JG2) for A-G. I suck at A-G and die way too much.

Wednesday nite, JG2 was vulching 27 from 16 in A5s. In the midst of my first 6 kill sortie ever, jigster got on my six in a 109 at d800 and attempted to close. With a combination of shallow dives and climbs, flat turns I was able to keep him > d750 for more than five minutes. Swager and Doc finally noticed my plight, and shook him off. I reversed immediately on jigster and had a quick kill.

I have a feeling that the A5 is a little uber. (not that I mind).

Sour

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Sour
JG-2 Richthofen

"Hey - someone has to be the target...."

   

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[Udie]

 A5 is now my a2a ride of choice, under 15k that is.  P47 is my choice up high, although I haven't gotten here up over 25k yet.  Jabo has me confused now. I don't know what to fly.  I love the a8 w/ 30mm for jabo missions, and that's the only time I fly the a8 now. BUT that damned thunderbolt has SO MUCH AMMO  good gosh! 2500lbs of bombs! plus 10 HE rockets and 2400 roudns of 50 cal!!!!!!!

 I created a mission last weekend in which we actualy got 20 hvy p47 in formation    We each had 2k of bombs and 10 rockets. That's 40,000 lbs of bombs!!!!!!!!!!!  and that's before you even count the 400 HE rockes we had also   That's alot of ordinance.   What other plane can cary that much?

 Udie

[funked]

F4U and P-38 can carry the 2 x 1000 lb + 10 x HVAR if I am not mistaken.

P.S.  Anybody notice that the A-5 and P-47 are a hell of a lot of fun to fight eachother in?  I've been on either side of this one and it was a blast.

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[Udie]

yeah but the 47 will take another 500 lb on the fuse    20 fully loaded p47's is 50,000lbs of bombs and 200 rockets  

udie

[Zigrat]

well ruide you are an excellent pony pilot, but why on earth would you fly with the aux tank full???? if you fly as well as you do with that thing full of gas <S> because it performs like a pig in that config for me.

[Ripsnort]

Aces High P51:
"The fuel system consists of two 92-gallon wing tanks and an 85-gallon fuselage
  tank.  Loading fuel in the fuselage tank hampers the stability of the P-51 by
  shifting the CG aft.  For this reason, the tank was to be used first- even before the
  drop tanks so that the CG would shift back to a more optimal position.  In Aces
  High, no fuel is loaded into the fuselage tank until the wing tanks are full.  If you
  take a large fuel load, you should follow the same strategy and use the fuel in the
  fuselage tank first."

[F4UDOA]

RAM,

You read a little more into my statement than was intended. NACA took the BMW801 engine apart and examined it thoroughly as well. All I am saying is that they liked the Pratt and Whitney engines. When I want to pick a fight I'll let you know.

By the way, what made you become a Bish?
It's mostly Amercian Iron over here.
I wish we played in a more historic plane set. I would much rather shoot Axis planes and there pilots than chase P-51's all over.
I fight better knowing that I might get a kill message that say's "you shot down RAM"
Hehe.

See ya
F4UDOA

[RAM]

 

Originally posted by F4UDOA:

By the way, what made you become a Bish?
It's mostly Amercian Iron over here.
I wish we played in a more historic plane set. I would much rather shoot Axis planes and there pilots than chase P-51's all over.
I fight better knowing that I might get a kill message that say's "you shot down RAM"
Hehe.

See ya
F4UDOA

So far I dont rember being shot down by you  ...

I changed to bishland because for personal motivations I left JG2-And i wanted to check another countries for a while. Right now I like what I see in Bishland, so maybe I'll stay longer than planned, if I find a squad that matches my expectations.

About Bishland being a mainly american iron country, I know  . So I came to bring redemption to the bishcuits with my 190   (J/K).

[Rude]

Well Zig....<S> back atcha  

I load heavy for a reason...I cant tell ya what it is cause it gives me a decided advantage over most other aircraft.

Give it some thought and I'm sure you will figure it out  

Cyas Up!

Rude Out!

PS...After some thought myself, try it in your a5...should yield the same result, perhaps better.

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[Kieren]

Could we be talking.... zoom?  

[funked]

Should help dive acceleration at high speeds too, once your prop becomes a brake.  

[-lazs-]

funked, let's say climb and acceleration are closely related but that there are other factors that can affect either.  For instance.... A Corsair will climb and accelerate identically to an A6m5 ("real" not AH) up to 10K with the corsair having a much higher top speed than the A6M5 but.. A Hog and a 190A5 will both accelerate the same (again, real life not AH) the same but the A5 will outclimb the Hog and the Hog is slightly faster while both have the same LB/HP.  
lazs

[funked]

Acceleration and climb rate (both measured at the same speed) are directly related.  At higher speeds, the F4U should have better acceleration than the Zeke, and this would show up if you did a high-speed climb.  However climb rate in that one test was measured at a low speed, and there the planes were equal.  If the A-5 and -1D were truly equals in acceleration at all speeds, then their climb rates must have been measured at different speeds.

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