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Offline Goat1

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Re: Frame Rate II
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2009, 09:11:41 AM »
How do I know what to shut down and what to keep?

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Re: Frame Rate II
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2009, 09:14:54 AM »
I think there is a sticky  that Skuzzy put up somewhere.  Maybe I can find it.

<------  Not an expert, but........

Some programs will do it for you.

FSAutoStart, EndItAll, etc.

Some of them will even tell you what is necessary or not.

If you are not running on a home network, a bunch of stuff can be shut off.  Print spoolers can be shut down, the list goes on.

Usually, though.  the stuff that is above and beyond ~30 processes is clutter.
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Re: Frame Rate II
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2009, 09:48:47 AM »
I was watching my processes while in game and taskmgr.exe was running, is this something I need or can
I remove it?

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Re: Frame Rate II
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2009, 10:19:08 AM »
Like I said, I'm not an expert, and I'd hate to tell you what is safe and what is not.

D/L one of the programs I mentioned, or something like it.  Try it.  Most of the will tell what is safe and what is not.

Most will also re-start processes after you exit the game.
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Re: Frame Rate II
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2009, 11:32:38 AM »
VonMessa's method is by far the easiest. However, if you want to do it manually (might teach you something about the computer and keeping the system in optimum operating conditions) please continue reading.

Processes will be installed and registry entries written which tell the computer to start the process or service when the system starts. This is because some of the applications are checking for updates, providing functionality, or simply allowing the system to run. A whole bunch of these processes really DO NOT need to be running in order to work on your computer. Here's a few pointers on reducing the running processes:

In Goat1's case, there's a few processes which can be shut down. Here's a list:

soffice.bin (Sounds similar to a Microsoft Office program. Don't believe it's critical)
aolwbspd.exe (Could be a connection agent. More than likely just a nuisance)
soffice.exe (Again, seems to be something similar to Microsoft Office)
acsd.exe (Unknown. I've never seen this process running. Try ending it to see what happens)
qttask.exe (Quick Time Task. It mainly checks for updates and readies Quick Time for immediate response to video file input)
ALCXMNTR.exe (Seen it before, don't know what it is. I just know I've stopped it with no adverse effects)
avgtray.exe (The task-bar icon you see when AVG is running. You can re-enable it from the start menu by opening AVG)
mmtask.exe (Seen it before, don't know what it is. Simply know it can be stopped with no adverse effects)
waol.exe (Once again, it could be a connection agent.)
-OPTIONAL- explorer.exe (This is your desktop. It will disable the Windows button and anything you see on your desktop (icons and start menu). Re-start the task by going to File>New Task (Run)...>explorer.exe )
SaiMfd.exe (Probably Saitek related. See what happens when you stop it)
ProfilerU.exe (Saitek Profile. I'm guessing when you stop it any mounted profiles will be released)
rnathchk.exe (No idea. However it seems to be related to something that was installed into the system (game, codec, etc...))
shwicon2k.exe (Again, no idea. Shouldn't hurt you to stop it)
shellmon.exe (Again, no idea. Shouldn't hurt you to stop it)
aoltray.exe (This could be part of an AOL connection agent. Yet I don't foresee any harm in stopping it)
realsched.exe (Real Player scheduler. Mainly for automatic updates)
kbd.exe (Task which associates special keys on your keyboard with real computer assignments. For instance, pressing Internet launches IE or Firefox.)
hphmon05.exe (Another lousy HP task. No idea what it does other than eat up system resources)
HpqCmon.exe (Once again, no idea. Just know its from HP and probably worthless)
hpsysdrv.exe (Once again, no idea. ^You guessed it)
ctfmon.exe (No idea what it does. While it is Windows related, I have shut it down multiple times with no adverse effects to my system's stability)

NOTE: While shutting down processes may change the appearance or stability of your system, it WILL NOT destroy or alter ANYTHING. If for some reason you feel you did something wrong, restart your computer. All processes which were ended will be restarted.

Now for system services (Squeeze out a little extra). ;)

(If you haven't stopped explorer.exe) Go to Start>Run. Type in: services.msc   Press OK.
(If you stopped explorer.exe) From the Task Manager (Ctrl + Shift + Esc). Go to File>New Task (Run)... Type in: services.msc   Press OK.

Here's a list of services which can be stopped. Please note, stopping a service may affect your system performance and stability. However, restarting the computer will restart the service. The only time that a service will not be restarted is if you, "disable" the service. Therefore I do not recommend you change the settings of the services we are discussing, only stop them (To stop a service right-click it then click, "Stop").

(From Windows XP)

Application Layer Gateway Service
Automatic Updates
Background Intelligent Transfer Service
Error Reporting Service
Help and Support
Machine Debug Manager (May not be seen on all machines)
Print Spooler
Security Center
System Restore Service
Task Scheduler
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper
Themes (Will alter appearance of EVERYTHING)
Volume Shadow Copy
Windows Time
Wireless Zero Configuration (ONLY IF YOU ARE USING A WIRED CONNECTION, NOT WIRELESS!!)

Once again, if you believe something is wrong with your system, restart it. All stopped processes and services will be started again.



If you want to know how to reduce some of the startup processes so you don't have to constantly run through this list every time you're about to play, send me a PM.
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Re: Frame Rate II
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2009, 12:07:58 PM »
I was watching my processes while in game and taskmgr.exe was running, is this something I need or can
I remove it?

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Re: Frame Rate II
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2009, 02:10:24 PM »
Here is a link for Services Guide Windows XP  http://www.theeldergeek.com/services_guide.htm . I have used their recommendations for two years with no problems. Gives you some recommendations for squeezing a little more out of a system. As all system tweeks go be informed,backed up, and safe.

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Re: Frame Rate II
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2009, 07:57:14 AM »

50-ish?  :O

A clean Windows install is ~20.

Wow.  Shut off some stuff.

That is with all open programs shut down, when I run a program called "Smartclose" it drops down to 30.

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Re: Frame Rate II
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2009, 09:58:44 AM »
I was able to reduce my processes to 23 in game, now my frame rate is up to 59fps, but still jumps a bit sometimes down to around 25.
But it's a heck of alot better now.

Thanks for all the help

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Re: Frame Rate II
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2009, 10:49:32 AM »
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Re: Frame Rate II
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2009, 12:54:42 PM »
why wont some of you guys that have clean windows install (ie 20 or so) post them so us that have no idea what we are doing will have something to look at and see what we could stop.

thanks

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Re: Frame Rate II
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2009, 01:33:03 PM »
No two Windows systems are exactly the same.  Some things running in the background have to do with the hardware configuration of the computer.

I would have posted that screenshot a  long time ago had I thought it would have helped, but as soon as I did, someone would end up with a computer that would not boot.
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Re: Frame Rate II
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2009, 03:38:21 PM »
No two Windows systems are exactly the same.  Some things running in the background have to do with the hardware configuration of the computer.

I would have posted that screenshot a  long time ago had I thought it would have helped, but as soon as I did, someone would end up with a computer that would not boot.

and you could blame it on that S.O.B., Murphy.
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