Icons for GV's

[BnZs]

At 1.5k a plane can easily spot a tank moving in the open.  Unfortunately, at 1.5k the plane also easily sees GVs that are deliberately hiding under trees, inside barns, hangars, and what have you.  You keep arguing that a plane would always be able to see a tank easily, even under trees, from a mile away (which 1.5k is almost).  I respectfully disagree.  Most of the tank paint schemes seem to be expressly designed to aid in camoflaging the vehicle, and a camoflaged Tiger, in a grove of trees, should not stick out like a sore thumb to a plane a mile away.

Like I said, the icons are limited. IF it was possible for the icon to be invisible when the airplane did not have a clear line of sight to the tank, that would be fine with me, however, I don't know that is possible. I know that getting rid of GV icons would be the poorer alternative. And the nature of the "tree cover" we have in AHII is thick enough to form a really solid canopy. I have some experience looking for lost cattle/stolen trailers and spotting game in a light plane, in East Texas. Know what that country is like? Animals can sometimes be easier to spot from 1000 feet above than they are at 50 yards down in the brush with them.

And the range icons don't make it "easy mode" divebombing any more or less than they make it "easy mode" gunnery in A2A fighting. Take away icons and that would be the *easiest* problem for the divebomber to solve, either through gun-site ranging or simple reference to the altimeter.

All you need to potentially take down the "bomb tard" is one guy in a flak or fighter aircraft. You don't need a "crew". Lone tanks are vulnerable to bombers/attack planes...bombers/attack planes are vulnerable to fighters and flaks...flaks are vulnerable to tanks...its a circle of life kind of deal.

And my thoughts about what beneficial changes could make GVing more fun are really fodder for another topic.

[E25280]

Unfortunately, at 1.5k the plane also easily sees GVs that are deliberately hiding under trees, inside barns, hangars, and what have you. 

You are overstating the problem.  GVs inside barns or inside hangers, out of view of the airplane, has no icon FWIW.

I've lost GVs temporarily in woods as well.  No LOS to the tank, no icon.

A more logical solution would be to suggest a terrain change to make it more similar to what it was like before the "Normandy/Bocage" terrain.  There used to be a solid enough canopy in forests to give a GV a true chance to hide.

[OOZ662]

You are overstating the problem.  GVs inside barns or inside hangers, out of view of the airplane, has no icon FWIW.

I've lost GVs temporarily in woods as well.  No LOS to the tank, no icon.

A more logical solution would be to suggest a terrain change to make it more similar to what it was like before the "Normandy/Bocage" terrain.  There used to be a solid enough canopy in forests to give a GV a true chance to hide.

Something's broken of your end, since I regularly catch guys hiding in barns via their massive icon from an angle where I can't see the tank through the holes in the barn. I was just now sniping tanks I couldn't see until the icon popped up out of the little forests in an Il-2 until half the Knights quit and ENY blocked the Ilyushin.

[onan]

Frustration? There is nothing more frustrating than being a good 1v1 when interlopers show up. There is nothing more frustrating than getting shot at by flaks while chasing a bandit. (Have you considered what your invisible GVs would be like when people inevitably start using them to ack-drag?)

 

[OOZ662]

Hey onan, do you not have a keyboard or are you prejudiced against words?

[onan]

  To me it said it all.  My bad.