The 10 Dimensions

[JB88]

I thought it was the seventh house? 

But surely, Jupiter will align with Mars. 

then peace will guide the planets...and loooooooove will steer the stars!!!

[boomerlu]

Take it from a Caltech Physics major:

1) String theory at this point is merely speculation. In fact, I'd call it mathematical bananay. In order to provide a shred of evidence for string theory, it'd take a particle collider the size of the solar system.

The only experimentally supported theory at this point is the Standard Model. Anything more than the SM is at best an educated guess (which will soon be proved or disproved with the activation of the LHC) and at worst a bunch of mathematicians getting too excited about what is possible and coming up with a "theory" which we don't have a shot at getting evidence for within the next thousand years. Keep in mind we can't DISPROVE them either as for any theory to be even remotely acceptable, it has to reduce to the currently supported model.

If you've ever seen "The Big Bang Theory" the CBS sitcom, they actually joke about this. When Leonard, PhD argues with his girlfriend, PhD about theories of physics, his girlfriend ends the argument with "BUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO TEACH THE CHILDREN?!" and breaks up with him over their disagreement. This is a joke on the fact that these advanced theories are almost like religions in their lack of experimental verifiability (I hope this comment doesn't end up getting my post banned).

In fact, a Nobel Prize winning physicst (Sheldon Glashow) left the Harvard Physics department because they had "converted" to string theory.

2) Mathematics only describes what is possible. Just because it is possible doesn't mean it is real. I can envision a universe of infinite dimensions and it will be mathematically reasonable. That doesn't mean it EXISTS, but it is possible. This is because math is simply an ABSTRACTION - a concept and set of tools which are useful.

For example, math can easily describe a universe in which there are only two dimensions. In fact, such a picture is extremely useful in certain situations. That does not mean we live in a 2-D universe.

3) Physics is a science, which means experimental evidence is the last word. In the "Golden Age" of physics in the late 19th and early-mid 20th centuries, the best theorists were every bit the effective experimentalists as well - guys like Faraday, Einstein, and Bohr.

4) As far as the link - assuming 10 dimensions do exist, that is by far the most logical explanation of what they actually mean that I've seen. I've never been able to envision what the extra dimensions in those 26 dimensional theories actually represent. They seemed to me more of a mathematical convenience so the calculations can work out correctly.

Anyways, have fun twisting your minds around extra dimensions  

[gyrene81]

   +1 to what Boomerlu posted.

I should have known this would have slanted a little ways to religous, because that's how people are.
Me? I believe that if you have math to back it, then I agree. I need evidence, and that's how I am.

I just thought it was pretty cool to know this stuff, if you can figure it out.
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Bosco123...did you know there is no mathematical evidence for dreams? Yet everyone has them (whether they remember them upon awakening or not)...so when you wake up in the middle of the night or in the morning are you going to deny you had a dream or series of dreams? You have no physical proof of occurrence, you cannot replicate the events in a controlled environment. Yet if you deny that the dreams occurred based on the lack of evidence, you would be lying.

Religion has it's place in the human psyche and human culture.

[Motherland]

You have no physical proof of occurrence, you cannot replicate the events in a controlled environment. Yet if you deny that the dreams occurred based on the lack of evidence, you would be lying.

Please don't believe everything you read on the internet, there has been easily observable physical evidence for 'dreams' since the 1950's, even though there are still many theories of what exactly their purpose is.

[gyrene81]

Please don't believe everything you read on the internet, there has been easily observable physical evidence for 'dreams' since the 1950's, even though there are still many theories of what exactly their purpose is.

Why would you assume I'm looking anything up on the internet? Rather than take something out of context and trying to "inform" me of something, read my statement again...from the beginning this time.

[Bosco123]

  +1 to what Boomerlu posted.


Bosco123...did you know there is no mathematical evidence for dreams? Yet everyone has them (whether they remember them upon awakening or not)...so when you wake up in the middle of the night or in the morning are you going to deny you had a dream or series of dreams? You have no physical proof of occurrence, you cannot replicate the events in a controlled environment. Yet if you deny that the dreams occurred based on the lack of evidence, you would be lying.

Religion has it's place in the human psyche and human culture.

So what are you saying, that becasue my mind is doing somthing that I cannot control over my sleep, that I believe them? I believe that I am going to kill somone because it was in my dreams? Absolutley not.
I was tring to use the word Religon, but now that you said it, I cannot beileve that the world was created in 8 days, just becasue of hear say. What I do believe that it took a long time for the world we know it today to occur, and I like that fact that I can solve it with math.
Simple as that.

[RightF00T]

I got lost at 2-D ...lol....but anyways anyone remember Sliders??? What a great show Kari Wurher was HOT

[Motherland]

Why would you assume I'm looking anything up on the internet?

Where else would you obtain such a nugget of information?

So what are you saying, that becasue my mind is doing somthing that I cannot control over my sleep, that I believe them? I believe that I am going to kill somone because it was in my dreams? Absolutley not.
I was tring to use the word Religon, but now that you said it, I cannot beileve that the world was created in 8 days, just becasue of hear say. What I do believe that it took a long time for the world we know it today to occur, and I like that fact that I can solve it with math.
Simple as that.

He was talking about dreams themselves, not what happens in them.

[WilldCrd]

I'm not really feeling up to reading all the previous posts due to a bad headache already 

dTry looking into Hyperdimensional physics and torsion fields
intersting stuff there, if you can wrap your head around it

[gyrene81]

Where else would you obtain such a nugget of information?

Uh...college...every heard of it?

He was talking about dreams themselves, not what happens in them.

Exactly.


Bosco, as the story goes the Earth was "created" in one day, not 8. And if you carefully examine the creation story very closely and then at the current theories of how our solar system was formed...there are some very small and weak similarities...but they exist...just as much as the mathematical foundation of all things within our dimensional existence.

[jdbecks]

my dog dreams...some times his legs move like hes running, other times he wags his tail and he barks and groans lol, hehehe wonder what he dreams about  chewing more of my tv remotes or something

[Bosco123]

Yet again your wrong. Earth was created by dust and particles moving through the universe and began to jumble into our solar system. Meteors would collide and combine, and this is after over a billion years after the the universe was created. After Earth was created, it was much like Venus. Green house effect and sulfuric acid was shooting temperatures up 250+, and at dark it was -250. Then, the green house effect and the sulfuric acid was finally burnt off to create a some what world that we have today. First creatures on this planes were amphibious, and not very big. First land creature was something like a frog, started in the water and moved on into land, looked like a lizard.

Only thing that was diffrent about the world then, and from the world now, (I could possibly have this a little wrong, this part about the moon) A meteor collided with Earth, and took out a chunk of the earth, then the chuck of Earth, which would now be a meteor, grabbed into our gravitational pull, and orbited around us, thus, making the moon.

I am beginning to question your "college degree" when I know this, when I failed my Astronomy class last year. If you are tring to pull this from the internet, please stop talking because your going to get your foot shoved in your mouth every time.  

[gyrene81]

Yet again your wrong. Earth was created by dust and particles moving through the universe and began to jumble into our solar system. Meteors would collide and combine, and this is after over a billion years after the the universe was created. After Earth was created, it was much like Venus. Green house effect and sulfuric acid was shooting temperatures up 250+, and at dark it was -250. Then, the green house effect and the sulfuric acid was finally burnt off to create a some what world that we have today. First creatures on this planes were amphibious, and not very big. First land creature was something like a frog, started in the water and moved on into land, looked like a lizard.

Only thing that was diffrent about the world then, and from the world now, (I could possibly have this a little wrong, this part about the moon) A meteor collided with Earth, and took out a chunk of the earth, then the chuck of Earth, which would now be a meteor, grabbed into our gravitational pull, and orbited around us, thus, making the moon.

I am beginning to question your "college degree" when I know this, when I failed my Astronomy class last year. If you are tring to pull this from the internet, please stop talking because your going to get your foot shoved in your mouth every time.  

You're absolutely 100% sure about this? You're quoting of the theory is a little off but it's not worth correcting you at this point. I don't recall seeing any substantial empirical evidence beyond the thousand or so theories that have circulated through the scientific community over the past 200 years. What you state as fact is based on changing scientific theory...nothing concrete beyond scientific conjecture which changes with every generation.

You can question my degree all you want, when you stop "using your faith" in what others have written and come up with your own empirical evidence...as in provide the evidence that you personally witnessed the events as you describe.

[FireDrgn]

So i could actually be a Powerball winner in another dimension... Luck bastage...

Ill let you all suck up to me tho.


Lots of abstract ideas mixed in with concrete ones.....That guys voice creeps me out.......... and he uses the word imagine to much......gets old after about the 5 time.

[FireDrgn]

Hmmm i just can't support billions of years do you have any proof of this.....

All scientific evidence points to a much short time.....

one example:   the earth is spinning slower...... billions of years  it would be spinning to fast.

2# The moon is moving away from the earth....... billions of years just does not fit.


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