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Re: What plane do want to learn how to fight with?
« Reply #45 on: September 12, 2009, 05:54:11 PM »
The Jeep.

I have not been able to get it much more than a few feet off the ground.

i can't drive a jeep. it keeps flipping on its back.
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Re: What plane do want to learn how to fight with?
« Reply #46 on: September 12, 2009, 07:47:58 PM »
i talked to a german fighter pilot a few years ago. according to him, the 190 could easily outperform the mustang.
 there weren't enough skilled pilots left, and there were too many mustangs.

Yeah...you got to take that sort of thing with grain o' salt.

There is a certain amount of "lost causism" like you see with the Confederacy in the American Civil War associated with the Luftwaffe in WWII. "Our planes and pilots were superior but for...".
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"Crikey, sir. I'm looking forward to today. Up diddly up, down diddly down, whoops, poop, twiddly dee - decent scrap with the fiendish Red Baron - bit of a jolly old crash landing behind enemy lines - capture, torture, escape, and then back home in time for tea and medals."

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Re: What plane do want to learn how to fight with?
« Reply #47 on: September 12, 2009, 08:23:05 PM »
but didn't the p38 produce more american aces than any other aircraft?
Really? What about the F6F? Hellcat was nicknamed the "ace maker".

Edit: "Pilots flying the Hellcat claimed nearly 5000 kills in the Pacific, and over 350 pilots achieved ace status on the type." - Amazon description of "Hellcat Aces of World War 2"
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Re: What plane do want to learn how to fight with?
« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2009, 08:57:34 PM »
Yeah...you got to take that sort of thing with grain o' salt.

There is a certain amount of "lost causism" like you see with the Confederacy in the American Civil War associated with the Luftwaffe in WWII. "Our planes and pilots were superior but for...".


i did. it was just intereting to hear him talk. it's very interesting to hear any of those guys from that generation really....
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Re: What plane do want to learn how to fight with?
« Reply #49 on: September 12, 2009, 09:45:23 PM »
boomerlu all the midwar and latewar planes did well against Japanese Aircraft.  The simple fact is it was easier to damage

a Japanese Aircraft.  They were generally slower, manufacutered poorly late war and could not in general keep up with US

aircraft in any way but maneurvability.  The choice of Combat generally rested with US aircraft.  They were faster,  and more rugged.

When it was determined not to get into a turnfight with a zero, they were destroyed in great quantity.

Plus...the F6 was a great carrier plane generally fighting inferior aircraft.  Same goes with the F4U.  The ruggedness of the F4

and training of its' Pilots held the lines until the hellcat and Corsair came along.  The P40B did very very well because of the use of tactics.

The F6 would not have fared as well in the ETO.  The 38s were sent in large numbers to the PAC also and did well for the same reasons.

P38s squads in the ETO did not fare as well as those in the PAC also for obvious reasons as stated above.  The 38 also had great range

and performed outstanding service in both theaters of war....but generally fared much better vs IJN and IJA aircraft then LW aircraft.

Late War in the PAC they had to ship P51s and the NJug to escort long range B29s which flew very high and were more suitable then

any other fighter in theater for that job. 

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Re: What plane do want to learn how to fight with?
« Reply #50 on: September 12, 2009, 10:30:54 PM »
Hajo, I am NOT debating the combat effectiveness of the various aircraft - just a particular statistic ;). Historically the F6F had the most ace US pilots. In today's AH environment I'd probably pick the 38 over the F6F.
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Re: What plane do want to learn how to fight with?
« Reply #51 on: September 12, 2009, 10:49:48 PM »
Learn to fly, or fly well. Corsair I wouldn't mind trying to get good in .

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Re: What plane do want to learn how to fight with?
« Reply #52 on: September 13, 2009, 03:28:44 AM »
I want to learn how to fly a Spitfire.















No Really. :noid
if you arent joking I can relate to you on this, I had an awful problem stalling spits after flying KIs and 109s for the longest time but then I jumped in the Spit 9 and love the bird now :salute
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Re: What plane do want to learn how to fight with?
« Reply #53 on: September 13, 2009, 08:27:20 AM »
Yes, i fly them worse than my 38.
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Re: What plane do want to learn how to fight with?
« Reply #54 on: September 13, 2009, 10:19:19 AM »
B5N2!!!!!! Where do I have to shot to get a kill using rear gun?  :D
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Re: What plane do want to learn how to fight with?
« Reply #55 on: September 13, 2009, 11:30:31 AM »
Really? What about the F6F? Hellcat was nicknamed the "ace maker".

Edit: "Pilots flying the Hellcat claimed nearly 5000 kills in the Pacific, and over 350 pilots achieved ace status on the type." - Amazon description of "Hellcat Aces of World War 2"

Top 3 PTO American aces were 38 drivers
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Re: What plane do want to learn how to fight with?
« Reply #56 on: September 13, 2009, 11:15:02 PM »
Having too much fun with the Yak-9T don't need anything else...   :D


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Re: What plane do want to learn how to fight with?
« Reply #57 on: September 14, 2009, 02:37:44 AM »
Top 3 PTO American aces were 38 drivers
Ahh but you said MOST aces, not BEST aces - I was just responding to what you said. And again, I'm not debating the merits of the aircraft, just reporting the stats. If you look up higher, I even mentioned I would be interested in learning the 38 after I am satisfied with my flying in the 109 and 190.
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Re: What plane do want to learn how to fight with?
« Reply #58 on: September 14, 2009, 07:44:06 AM »
Ahh but you said MOST aces, not BEST aces - I was just responding to what you said. And again, I'm not debating the merits of the aircraft, just reporting the stats. If you look up higher, I even mentioned I would be interested in learning the 38 after I am satisfied with my flying in the 109 and 190.

I never said anything about "most aces". I was just stating a point.  :aok
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Re: What plane do want to learn how to fight with?
« Reply #59 on: September 14, 2009, 07:57:47 AM »
who was americas top ace in ww2?
what did he fly?

who was americas second highest scoring ace in ww2?
what did he fly?
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