Perked USAAF plane?

[5PointOh]

Makes one wonder if the P-51H was such an improvement over the P-51D, why was it not considered suitable for combat in Korea?  Hint, it was not because of the greater availability of the D Mustang.


ack-ack

Ok sorry to use wiki, but it makes some sense...

Wiki Quote

During the Korean War, F-51s, though obsolete as fighters, were used as close ground-support aircraft and reconnaissance aircraft until the end of the war in 1953[45]. Because of its lighter structure and less availability of spare parts, the newer, faster F-51H was not used in Korea. With the aircraft being used for ground attack, their performance was less of a concern than their ability to carry a load.

[Chalenge]

Actually the British took the very first Mustang Mk.I into trials and found it to be lacking above medium altitude but superior even to the Spitfire at low altitudes. Of course that was early on and the Spitfire went on to evolve further. It would be very interesting in the mid and late war arenas.

North American was first approached by the British to build P-40s and Atwood purchased the plans and rights from Curtiss for $50000 but Kindelberger acting on his own initiative offered the British a new design to be constructed within 100-120 days (with quite a bit of latitude allowed). The result came in 117 days and was so very similar to the Curtiss XP-46 project that Curtiss was calling foul and there has been wild speculations ever since. History is a pretty good indication that it was all untrue in that the XP-46 was a failure and the XP-51 Apache (the first ever USAAF designation) was a brilliant success.

Fixed.

[Kazaa]

Meteor please, it would increase AH2's epeen by a ton!

[Anaxogoras]

Ok sorry to use wiki, but it makes some sense...

Wiki Quote

During the Korean War, F-51s, though obsolete as fighters, were used as close ground-support aircraft and reconnaissance aircraft until the end of the war in 1953[45]. Because of its lighter structure and less availability of spare parts, the newer, faster F-51H was not used in Korea. With the aircraft being used for ground attack, their performance was less of a concern than their ability to carry a load.

It's a pity that the P-47 was not retained for this role instead of the P-51.

[Saurdaukar]

Just make an exception for the Bearcat and be done with it.

[Karnak]

Just make an exception for the Bearcat and be done with it.

Bearcat or Tigercat would be interesting as exceptions....but they would do nothing for getting a perked USAAF airplane into the game as they were both Navy/Marine birds, and we already have a couple perked US Navy/Marine birds.

[PJ_Godzilla]

Meanwhile, we're running the BoB without the He-111, again.

Or the (admittedly much less widely used) Dornier...

I don't see equal validity to the two. However, I think the Dornier needs a place at the table - especially given the later variants.

Bottom line: what planes DON'T we want added? More is always better. Even if it's Battles and Fulmars...

[Karnak]

Or the (admittedly much less widely used) Dornier...

I don't see equal validity to the two. However, I think the Dornier needs a place at the table - especially given the later variants.

Bottom line: what planes DON'T we want added? More is always better. Even if it's Battles and Fulmars...

The Do17 and Do217 may look similar, but they are 100% separate designs.

[PJ_Godzilla]

The Do17 and Do217 may look similar, but they are 100% separate designs.

Correct and acknowledged, but what about the Kauz II (Z-10), Do215 and 215-based Kauz III (ro)? They both saw service (the export model in significant numbers) and the Kauz were hard-nosed NJ versions.

[Karnak]

If we ever do get the Do17, I would be very surprised if any version other than the Do17Z were added, ever.

[LLogann]

We totally need to get that DO17..... It's one of the best American aircraft of the war.   

If we ever do get the Do17, I would be very surprised if any version other than the Do17Z were added, ever.

[PJ_Godzilla]

We totally need to get that DO17..... It's one of the best American aircraft of the war.   

Skuzzy, I hereby report Logan for hijacking this thread.

[LLogann]

 

Skuzzy, I hereby report Logan for hijacking this thread.

 

[Dream Child]

Yes, the P-38L-5-Lo could reach 442MPH in level flight at critical altitude, as per the Lockheed spec, with the Lockheed/Allison factory tune up, 72" MAP and 3400 RPM. Not a claim, but rather a fact, according to Lockheed engineer Warren Bodie, author of "The Lockheed P-38 Lightning", and he has the Lockheed test papers. The P-38L in the game operates only at "military power" and not War Emergency Power as modeled in AH II, the military power setting in the game is incorrect, and the War Emergency Power setting in the game is actually military power for the -30 Allisons in the P-38L.

I'll be happy to let you prove that statement. Until then, most, if not all, reputable sources put the P-38L at 414 mph and the P-51H at 490 mph

[Nemisis]

P-38 was a jack of all trades.  While it was not a master in one particular area, it was good in all areas.

ack-ack

Yes, thats what I said. It's not the BEST in any area I can think of (if you can then please correct me), but its still a great plane. Just that its not the BEST. Many well rounded planes, but most if not all are more tailored to a specific area then the 38, while still being about as good as the 38 in other areas.