Author Topic: New Lag and Frame Rate problem (Read 4886 times)

DCCBOSS · « **on:** September 27, 2009, 07:01:55 PM »

In the past few days it seems that my frame rates and lag has been a issue, I have not had any problems until this last update, nothing has change with my system or my settings, in fact I had increased my clock rates and it still made no difference. I was asking around in the MA and found a lot of people are having the same problem since the last update.

thndregg · « **Reply #1 on:** September 27, 2009, 08:03:28 PM »

I'll jump in as well. No problems up until this weekend. Frames in the single digits. I turned the Ground Detail down to half, but to no avail. Previously I thought I was on the up & up with detailed terrain on- that is up until today.

If there is any more information required, I'll dig it up. Thanks.

bravoa8 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 27, 2009, 10:09:53 PM »

im having some low frames too the settings are:
Detailed Terrain:Off
Detailed Water:On
Object Self Shadow:On,texture size is 2069 or something like that i think
Object Smooth Shadow:Off
Bump Map Terrain:On
Sliders:
Object detail:All the way
Object distance:All the way
And no effects or skins are disabled
This has just happened recently to me too just like thundregg said

WMLute · « **Reply #3 on:** September 27, 2009, 10:33:05 PM »

Start -> Run -> DxDiag

Click the 'Save All Information' button.

Post the top 1/3 ish here.

guncrasher · « **Reply #4 on:** September 28, 2009, 12:10:59 AM »

I am having problems too since last update. only posting here so as not to duplicate threads. used to having 50 to 60 fps with everything on, now it drops to the 10-20 with no detail tarraine, water reflections and self shadows. also ground detail and object detail are pulled back to the mid range. system or vc are not overheating. I should also add that i have been disco'd about 5 times since friday where it basically didnt happened before. have no problems with warping.

semp

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Skuzzy · « **Reply #5 on:** September 28, 2009, 06:28:47 AM »

There is a mix of different issues in this thread.

thndregg, your video card is not fast enogh to keep up with "Detailed Terrain" when a lot is going on. You need to turn off that option and just tunr on the "Bump Map" and "Detailed Water" options.

Self-shadow, as a general comnment, requires a very fast, high end video card to be able to keep the frame rates up, especially when other things are going on around you in the game. If you have it enabled and find frame rates dropping when things start happening, then disable the option.

guncrasher, your CPU is the limiting factor. It caannot kjeep up with the 9800GTX video card. You need to clear out your background processes and get your computer running really lean to be able to pump the video card with data.

thndregg · « **Reply #6 on:** September 28, 2009, 07:19:52 AM »

Quote from: Skuzzy on September 28, 2009, 06:28:47 AM

thndregg, your video card is not fast enogh to keep up with "Detailed Terrain" when a lot is going on. You need to turn off that option and just tunr on the "Bump Map" and "Detailed Water" options.

Much appreciated, Skuzzy.

Tigger29 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 28, 2009, 07:20:43 AM »

OK Skuzz... I have the same exact deal... up until the new version (2.15) I could fly with all options on and maintain 40-50FPS in almost all conditions.... now I struggle to see frame rates in the teens, even with all sliders set to performance and all options off except for detailed terrain.

I can turn detailed terrain OFF and see my frame rate pegged at 60fps all of the time, no matter what all of my other settings are at. This is at 1680X1050 with one notch of AA at the main AH video settings window (graphics set to app controlled) and 1024 textures with the hi-res pack.

As you can see, although I don't have an I7, my hardware isn't exactly dated either. I should add that I never got to play with patch 0, so I don't know if this problem started with 2.15 in general, or if it's a patch 1 deal...

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DCCBOSS · « **Reply #8 on:** September 28, 2009, 08:25:42 AM »

I understand the computer settings, but what I'm saying is that something else changed that hit my systems performance on this last update.

The Fugitive · « **Reply #9 on:** September 28, 2009, 03:30:06 PM »

Quote from: DCCBOSS on September 28, 2009, 08:25:42 AM

I understand the computer settings, but what I'm saying is that something else changed that hit my systems performance on this last update.

The last update was 10 days ago, and your complaining about .......

Quote from: DCCBOSS on September 27, 2009, 07:01:55 PM

In the past few days it seems that my frame rates and lag has been a issue, I have not had any problems until this last update, nothing has change with my system or my settings, in fact I had increased my clock rates and it still made no difference. I was asking around in the MA and found a lot of people are having the same problem since the last update.

If you ran the newest update for a week THEN something started hurting your frame rates it most likely isn't the update, you would have had trouble from the start. Have you run PingPlotter to see how your connection is? If your connection has gone bad over the weekend you would run into these kind of stuff.

DCCBOSS · « **Reply #10 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:21:28 PM »

Quote from: The Fugitive on September 28, 2009, 03:30:06 PM

The last update was 10 days ago, and your complaining about .......

If you ran the newest update for a week THEN something started hurting your frame rates it most likely isn't the update, you would have had trouble from the start. Have you run PingPlotter to see how your connection is? If your connection has gone bad over the weekend you would run into these kind of stuff.

I haven't been on that much since the update and when I was the area was low in numbers and later at night, so I didn't see much or was I looking at my performance until I seen the issues becoming more prevalent. I will post my dxdiag when I get home, then let me know if the issue is my system.

guncrasher · « **Reply #11 on:** September 28, 2009, 05:45:59 PM »

Quote from: DCCBOSS on September 28, 2009, 04:21:28 PM

I haven't been on that much since the update and when I was the area was low in numbers and later at night, so I didn't see much or was I looking at my performance until I seen the issues becoming more prevalent. I will post my dxdiag when I get home, then let me know if the issue is my system.

I agree with dcboss. my fps only got worst since the last update. your right skuzzy my cpu is a little behind my vc but before update I had really great fps. that's the reason i havent gotten the e8400 processor yet. I have also noticed that sometimes, I will damage a plane and I get neither kill/assist mesage. I have been trying to record but when I have recorded on i never seem to get it on video. only video I have is from the prior update ( I believe) when I damaged 2 airplanes and neither was showing on the text buffers. only reason I am posting here is as to not duplicate threads. will upload film in a couple of hours.

semp

guncrasher · « **Reply #12 on:** September 28, 2009, 09:10:32 PM »

Quote from: guncrasher on September 28, 2009, 05:45:59 PM

I agree with dcboss. my fps only got worst since the last update. your right skuzzy my cpu is a little behind my vc but before update I had really great fps. that's the reason i havent gotten the e8400 processor yet. I have also noticed that sometimes, I will damage a plane and I get neither kill/assist mesage. I have been trying to record but when I have recorded on i never seem to get it on video. only video I have is from the prior update ( I believe) when I damaged 2 airplanes and neither was showing on the text buffers. only reason I am posting here is as to not duplicate threads. will upload film in a couple of hours.

semp

Was reviewing some old films and remembered that the current map has always messed up my fr (by chance been fiting over fields with jungles around). way too many trees, coupled with some large furballs that I have been involved in the past week (field of view has been full of red planes)and adding the fact that I just got a 23 in monitor (2 weeks ago) with a higher resolution than before. Sorry for doubting you skuzzy, in my case the processor is the problem. I do have it oc to 3.2 but guess not enough for this map. and it all coincided with the last update. Will keep checking on the no kill/assist message, hope I can get a couple of videos then will post it in the bug section.

semp

LLogann · « **Reply #13 on:** September 29, 2009, 07:06:23 PM »

I am having the same "lag, low framerate" issue. However I haven't changed anything.

So what did HTC do different 72 hours ago?

And how can I fix it?

Skuzzy · « **Reply #14 on:** September 30, 2009, 06:36:40 AM »

In the last 3 days? We have not done a thing. I am willing to bet the Internet has changed though. It does, everyday.

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