Any Glock Owners Out There?

[Jayhawk]

Transporting is a little confusing.  Here's some quick info found in the FAQ of the law:

Kansas does not have a general law against carrying a loaded firearm in a vehicle.

K.S.A. 2005 Supp 12-16, 124(d) provides that "no person shall be prosecuted under any ordinance, resolution or regulation for transporting a firearm in any air, land or water vehicle if the firearm is unloaded and encased in a container which completely encloses the firearm."

So to be totally safe, you can unload the firearm and store it in an encased container.  I would assume the glove compartment would suffice.  In the 2007 modifications to the bill, concealed carry permit holders can transport the gun concealed and loaded.  I think they added that to protect from any local laws.  To be safe with open carry you can put the gun in your passenger seat or preferably on your dash.  You have to be careful that you don't keep it holstered while driving because if you do get pulled over that could be considered concealing a firearm unlawfully.  Like the beginning said, there is no specific law but it could be risky to transport a loaded firearm without the permit in your glove box or console. Easiest thing to do is either unload it and put it in or just toss it on your dash for the drive.

[TwinEng]

Transporting is a little confusing.  Here's some quick info found in the FAQ of the law:
 In the 2007 modifications to the bill, concealed carry permit holders can transport the gun concealed and loaded.  I think they added that to protect from any local laws.  To be safe with open carry you can put the gun in your passenger seat or preferably on your dash.  You have to be careful that you don't keep it holstered while driving because if you do get pulled over that could be considered concealing a firearm unlawfully.  Like the beginning said, there is no specific law but it could be risky to transport a loaded firearm without the permit in your glove box or console. Easiest thing to do is either unload it and put it in or just toss it on your dash for the drive.

Put your gun out on your dash in the open for anyone driving by to see???   OMG, what a wonderful idea. 

I guess we just see things from very different perspectives.

Good luck to you in open carrying.   You may well need it, in my opinion.



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[Jayhawk]

Good luck to you in open carrying.   You may well need it, in my opinion.

I don't need luck, I've got the law on my side. 

[Shuffler]

If a sign says no guns allowed.... that would cover concealed or open carry.

I stear clear of those places as much as possible as they invite the criminal to a safe haven for doing his crimes.

[PJ_Godzilla]

If a sign says no guns allowed.... that would cover concealed or open carry.

I stear clear of those places as much as possible as they invite the criminal to a safe haven for doing his crimes.

And for rudeness, an armed society being a polite one...

A former coworker of mine from Northern England related an anecdote about car thieves introducing themselves, muscle in tow, at the doors of their victims - give us the keys or suffer a vicious beating. How's that gun control working out for England? They've got some of the worst violent crime rates in the civilized world now.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/world/2008/07/18/knife-crime-spree-sweeps-britain-leaving-victims-and-fear-in-its-wake.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/violent-crime-underestimated-for-10-years-971489.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article568214.ece
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25671/Violent-crime-worse-Britain-US.html

Gun control in UK = FAIL

How's that immigrant issue working for you there, too? At least the IRA's quiet. Too bad that, under the banner of diversity, thenation that led the rise of Western greatness, that stewarded a Victorian empire over which the sun never set, is now a garbage dump that will accept anything - probably even Sharia law.

No wonder the BNP is attracting the unwashed. They're looking for an alternative to the failed leadership of labor and it's moronic platitudes. Oh well, have another drink out in the street, Cool Britannia... and lay face-down in the sewer, choking on your own bitter failures. It was a good run but the gentler side of the British psyche, the good-humored desire to help the worthless, has done you in. And now that you're sick, the 1.4M-staffed NHS is just the parasite that helps ensure that you stay good and sick. Indeed, that's doubtless why it caught the attention of "The One"  - to the extent that he actually understands anything about history at all.


One of the facts that the control crowd likes to keep quiet is that the gun is a great equalizer by which a 105-lb woman can be as deadly as a 300-lb knuckle-dragger. So it is with individuals versus gangs - Sam Colt makes 'em all equal.

My own thinking is, and if you monitor the hard left in this nation via venues like Mother Jones, The Nation, KPFA, KPFK, FSRN, etc, that the hrd left fears gun ownershi pbecause they fear political violence: i.e., when people remember that they're human beings with rights and choose to forcibly resist their efforts to be put in a a box of indentured lifetime servitude.

That's what Pelosi was getting all quiver-lipped about.

I hope, someday, they're given good reason to cry.

I'm sure I must be a loony, to call failure when I see it. Or, in the very sarcastic words of one of your better-known Tories:

"...and William Shakespeare is the schmooze of the week
and anyone who says different is a f***ing antique..."

[Jayhawk]

Shuffler, did you get that from the kansas laws I posted?

The no guns sign is part of the concealed carry bill. No local or county law adopts the sign to restrict open carry.  In Kansas, open carry is regulated on the local or county level and the only law is a local one that resticts you from stopping on the sidewalk within 200 feet of a drinking establishment.

Because these laws are regulated on the small gov level, they will differ everywhere you go.  The law where you live likely differs from here.


PJ: whoa! lol
You have to remember that most people are trying to do what they believe is right.  From the other side it may look crazy but you have to keep in mind they see you as crazy too (especially after that  only kidding).

As a left leaner myself I truly believe most of those on the left want the gun control because guns can kill people.    Its that simple and I can understand their point, I disagree with them but made the effort to understand where they were coming from.  I don't see a reason for certain guns or ammo to be in civilian hands but do understand the importance and right of having one (I went with the Glock 19 btw).

There are a lot of factors that go into a nation's well-being, guns are not the only one.

[Shuffler]

Shuffler, did you get that from the kansas laws I posted?

The no guns sign is part of the concealed carry bill. No local or county law adopts the sign to restrict open carry.  In Kansas, open carry is regulated on the local or county level and the only law is a local one that resticts you from stopping on the sidewalk within 200 feet of a drinking establishment.

Because these laws are regulated on the small gov level, they will differ everywhere you go.  The law where you live likely differs from here.


PJ: whoa! lol
You have to remember that most people are trying to do what they believe is right.  From the other side it may look crazy but you have to keep in mind they see you as crazy too (especially after that  only kidding).

As a left leaner myself I truly believe most of those on the left want the gun control because guns can kill people.    Its that simple and I can understand their point, I disagree with them but made the effort to understand where they were coming from.  I don't see a reason for certain guns or ammo to be in civilian hands but do understand the importance and right of having one (I went with the Glock 19 btw).

There are a lot of factors that go into a nation's well-being, guns are not the only one.

So if you have it concealed then pull it out and walk in 

[Jayhawk]

So if you have it concealed then pull it out and walk in 

lol I know, that's how I understand it, pretty ridiculous.  You have to keep the gun concealed, printing could get you in trouble, and showing a little bit could get you in trouble.  But showing the whole thing is legal.  It's messed up, but that's why it's so advantageous to know the law thoroughly if you plan to carry a gun in either manner.

[cpxxx]

Glocks? Don't like them much. I prefer my Sig P226 or my Colt M1911A1. It's just a pity they're only airsoft. Not that an intruder will be able to tell the difference, no red tips in this country:aok If the worst comes to the worst. I'll give him a nasty sting with the BBs, the 1911 can poke holes in beer cans If that doesn't deter him, the fact that it's a metal replica means I can smash him in the face. 

Our moronic government has just banned handguns, unfortunately that doesn't apply to gangsters and drug dealers, who favour Glocks and have their own way of importing them. So it's Airsoft or nothing.

Typically of course, it's never been easier to get your hands on an illegal gun.

[Jayhawk]

What government is that cpxxx?

[Shuffler]

What government is that cpxxx?

Psst look at his location.... Ireland

[Jayhawk]

Don't go being smart on me Shuffler, is so uncharacteristic of you.

[PJ_Godzilla]

PJ: whoa! lol
You have to remember that most people are trying to do what they believe is right.  From the other side it may look crazy but you have to keep in mind they see you as crazy too (especially after that  only kidding).

As a left leaner myself I truly believe most of those on the left want the gun control because guns can kill people.    Its that simple and I can understand their point, I disagree with them but made the effort to understand where they were coming from.  I don't see a reason for certain guns or ammo to be in civilian hands but do understand the importance and right of having one (I went with the Glock 19 btw).

There are a lot of factors that go into a nation's well-being, guns are not the only one.

I don't doubt their intentions. However, being well-intentioned is the easy part. Thinking the problem through is the unglamorous heavy lifting of fixing problems.  I see little skill in that discipline across the aisle -and often little on this side of it. 

We can agree that Lenin"s Peace, Bread, Land or the French Revolution's Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite were well-intentioned, right? Indeed, I suspect "Asia for the Asians" and "Deutschland Uber Alles" were well-intentioned.

[Shuffler]

Don't go being smart on me Shuffler, is so uncharacteristic of you.

 

 

[Dadsguns]

As a left leaner myself I truly believe most of those on the left want the gun control because guns can kill people.    Its that simple and I can understand their point,,,

I have never "understood" the left in their "point".
I hope what you meant to say is that/ "People kill people, with many different things including guns, like cars, trucks, planes, forklifts, etc etc".

I have been around Guns all my life, to this date, my guns nor anyone guns I have ever known has killed someone.  Period.

People kill people.  Guns don't kill people.