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« on: August 15, 2000, 04:39:00 AM »
           

This plane would be a nice addition to the "ground-pounder set" along with the lovely P-47D-25 and the Il-2 or Il-10 that I hope to see eventually.        

Joe Baugher has a good writeup on this plane, taken primarily from Adam Skupiewski's "Aircraft Monograph:  Fw 190A/F/G/S, Part I"

Basically it is an Fw 190A-8 airframe, which should make flight modeling an easy task.  Some early examples had special armor but this was generally not fitted due to excessive weight.  Outboard MG 151/20 were not fitted but the wing-root cannons and cowl MG's were retained.

Like the A-8, an ETC 501 centerline stores rack was fitted, capable of carrying a 300 liter fuel tank, 250 kg bomb, or 500 kg bomb.  An ER4 adapter was commonly used which allowed carriage of 4 x 50 kg bombs on the ETC 501.

The major version was the Fw 190F-8/R1, with 4 hardpoints on the wings.  Each wing had two ETC 50 or ETC 71 bomb racks for 50 kg or 70 kg bombs.

Another significant variant was the Fw 190F-8/U1 which had underwing pylons taken from the Bf 110.  A 300 liter drop tank or 250 kg bomb could be carried on each wing.

Several types of anti-tank rockets were also used on the Fw 190F-8, which I have detailed HERE.
 
Information on this type is pretty abundant.  The Smithsonian has an immaculately restored example of an F-8 (pictured above) which served with Schlachtgeschwader 2, if one needs a pattern for coloring and details.  Jay P. Spenser's "Focke-Wulf Fw 190, Workhorse of the Luftwaffe" explores the history and restoration of that particular plane.

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Offline Westy

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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2000, 08:29:00 AM »
Seconded!

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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2000, 09:27:00 AM »
The voice of reason!

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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2000, 09:54:00 AM »
I don't have a problem with it, but nobody would fly it.  It doesn't have enough of a load out and the cannon on it, if they are MG151/20s w/HE ammo, would be useless against any sort of hard target.  There's no reason to fly it when we have the F4U-1C available.  The Typhoon is a better ground attack aircraft than the Fw190F-8 and look at how many Tiffies we see in the MA.  The F4U-1C is just too effective to justify using anything short of a Tempest.

Better armored tanks might change this so that Il-2s and Ju87Gs at least have a reason to exist.

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2000, 10:04:00 AM »
Karnak did you actually read my post?  

It carries up to 3 times the ordnance of the standard 190A.  As for the cannon, the HE ammo works fine against airfield targets.  And Luftwaffe ground attack units used AP ammo for missions against vehicles.  Most importantly, the F-8 carried a variety of anti-tank rockets not available on the A models.

Maybe there would be more popular ground attack choices in an arena, but for scenarios it is a very important aircraft - the Luftwaffe's primary ground attack plane in the last 18-24 months of the war.

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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2000, 11:09:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Karnak:
I don't have a problem with it, but nobody would fly it

I would fly it...

So would all the LW nuts here  

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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2000, 12:14:00 PM »
Course I would fly it. Especialy if they happend to use the 2 X mk103 load out....
I know, I know it was a field trial prototype..
But still....

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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2000, 04:33:00 AM »
How is the deck speed, compared to A-8 ?

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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2000, 05:03:00 AM »
If with more power than A-8 below 1000m, with cowl MGs removed and bubble canopy, it might even be a better fighter than A-8, huh ?

Now, how about that deck speed ?  

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2000, 06:53:00 PM »
Hristo- it didn't have the cowl MG removed- it was a ground pounder and the cowl MG were valuable for strafing.

And don't hold your breath for it to be a fighter- just one of the best ground attack planes of the war  

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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2000, 08:02:00 PM »
We're more likely to see AH-64 with radar hellfires than Fw190 groundpounders..

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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2000, 08:18:00 PM »
Taas kalassa vai ?
Toi on kyllä sellainen täky johon nappaa kaikki Sammakoista lähtien.
Enpä paakkaan hymyä ettei mee pilalle.

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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2001, 06:16:00 AM »
PUNT

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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2001, 07:23:00 AM »
THANK YOU FUNKED!

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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2001, 02:46:00 AM »
<punt> I'd fly it before a blue turd anyday!

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