Perk The Dora Campaign!!!

[funked]

Gotcha RAM!!!

[Nath-BDP]

NO ! STFU NOW

[RAM]

       

 

 

[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 08-16-2000).]

[Replicant]

Nah Funked, if you want to wind people up you want to say that a perk for the buffs would be to have a 20mm tail gun!  

Regards

'Nexx'

[Fishu]

Those allies are really scared of 190D being a match for P51.. and it doesn't even turn as tight (that drops out many pilots that don't know way to maneuver properly in it)

So, be a man allies, don't be such lousy cowards requiring for perk on plane that has weak sides and good sides as well as in P-51!
There isn't any superior things.

Well.. if allies really are such cowards, then lets make it up by perking P-51  

[This message has been edited by Fishu (edited 08-16-2000).]

[mx22]

Those LW pilots are really scared of seeing SpitXIV in the arena  

mx22

[RAM]

Not as perk  

 

[mx22]

I know everything about your tricks RAM, you just don't want me to have that many chances to fly in my Spitty.... Hey how about perking SpitXIX hehe I think it was in squadrons before the end of the war, though never acctually flew in it

mx22

[JimBear]

I Want My Spit FourTeen.....    

[Fishu]

Yup, Spit XIV is definetly more superior to P51 and 190D....  PERK!  
Even if I would fly that P-47 and Yak (hmm, lately I have flown those more than LWs), I would say 'PERK it"

Ram, I guess this means that Ta-152 and Me262 are too good planes to be ever put into the game, because if already dora is considered as perk plane among these few allied cowards  

[Karnak]

I don't think the Fw190D-9 should be perked.

As far as later British planes, the LW fans don't seem to mind the idea of us getting an unperked Tempest MkV, although I can't for the life of me figure out why.  The Tempest would, IMHO, be a far more imbalancing aircraft, in the MA, than the Spitfire Mk F.XIV.  Up to about 15,000 to 20,000ft the Tempest would be superior and in AH the vast majority of the fighting takes place below 20,000ft.  The only thing that will outrun a Fw190D-9 down low, barring jets, is a Tempest.  The Tempest will also climb better, zoom climb better, roll and turn comparablly and is armed with 4 Hispano MkV 20mm cannon.  The Hispano V has a muzzle velocity of 800 meters per second and a rate of fire of 800 rounds a minute, or, in other words, nearly the muzzle velocity of a Hispano II with the rate of fire of a MG151/20.

If the Spitfire Mk F.XIV is perked, what will be its companions in official Ubėrdom?  Lets try a theoretical list:

Spitfire Mk F.XIV (Jan, 1944)
Spitfire Mk F.21  (Mar, 1945)
Fury              (???, 1945)
Meteor MkIV       (???, 1945)
La7               (???, ????)
Ki100             (Jan, 1945)
P-47M             (???, 1945)
P-80              (???, 1945)
B-29B             (???, 1944)
Ta152             (???, 1945)
Me163             (???, 1944)
Me262             (???, 1944)
Ar234             (???, ????)

This is by no means intended to be a complete list and I don't have all of the dates of service memorized, hence the question marks.  Here is my question: Why would I ever waste a perk on a Spitfire Mk F.XIV with those other monsters to chose from?  The ammount that I personally play will probably get me no perks or one perk per tour.  If I take a XIV, I am going to be meat on the table for some other player who flys more and earns a perk each night or every other night.  Therefore I am going to have to take an Me262 instead of a late war Spitfire, just as I now fly the Bf109G-10 instead of the Spitfire MkIX.  As I am not very good, I need to be able to escape and the only way to assure that is to take a plane that can outrun whatever is chasing it.  Being able to run is half the fight.

My thought is this, is the Spitfire Mk F.XIV is modeled, don't perk it.  If it is too powerful to model without perking it, don't bother modeling it at all.

Just some material for thought.

  BRING THE, NON-PERKED Fw190D-9 TO ACES HIGH

Sisu
-Karnak

[funked]

Stop!  This was a joke thread, just a troll to see if I could get RAM to post.

[RAM]

 

Originally posted by Karnak:
the LW fans don't seem to mind the idea of us getting an unperked Tempest MkV, although I can't for the life of me figure out why

Feeded up Typhoon. Has incredible strenghts but also big drawbacks...bad turning (a Ta152H-0 at low altitudes was able to outturn it,as was demonstrated in a well documented engagement in last days of WWII), and that big torque...

Spitfire XIV has no big drawbacks. It should handle like a IX and run ,accelerate and climb like a G10.
That is a pure perk arena plane.

Tempest is an impressive plane, one to fear. But it has drawbacks as well as advantages.

Bring it as non-perk. I will support Tempest V over SpitXIV as non perk for RAF any day.


Mx22, Spitfire XIX was a recce unarmed aircraft...

Sure you can bring it as non perk plane and perk Tempest and Spit XIV  

plese PLEASE Do it!!!      

[mx22]

it was a small typing mistake of making which i'm known for- I meant Spit XXI, you should have realized what I will ask hehe. There is nothing better in the world then write on this BBS words "SpitXIV" and then see how long it will take for you to search them out RAM   (tsss don't tell this to my gf or I'll be in trouble   )

mx22

[This message has been edited by mx22 (edited 08-17-2000).]

[Karnak]

mx22,
There was a Squadron of Spitfire Mk F.21s posted to the continent from March '45 on and they did do combat patrols over German held land, they just didn't encounter any of the increasingly rare Luftwaffe.  
BTW, mark numbers on Spitfire/Seafires stop being Roman numerals from 21 on.

Funked,
 

The problem I see is that while the Spitfire Mk F.XIV may be too good for a non-perked MA aircraft, it isn't good enough to compete with the other aircraft that should be perked.  It seems to me that it occupies and uncomfortable middle ground between perk and non-perk.  Ah well.  We'll just have to wait and see what HTC will do, add it as a non-perk, add it as a perk, or not add it at all.

Sisu
-Karnak