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Offline abc123

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Re: Quick 109 Question
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2009, 06:07:35 PM »
Just remember, real men fly F's when there's work to be done and then E's for play.
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Re: Quick 109 Question
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2009, 10:03:25 AM »
I am often puzzled by those who think the K4 is an "easy-mode" plane.  There aren't many, granted, but they seem fairly vocal.

How many times have you seen new players ask the arena something to the effect of "What is a good starter plane?"

In all my time here, I've never seen any 109 recommended on Channel 200; let alone the K4.  In fact, for an even mediocre player, I'd contend that the plane is more a danger to the driver than anyone else.

The plane is one big "if."

"If" you can hit with it, the 30mm will kill most aircraft in one shot.
"If" you can force a fight to the vertical, you have the advantage.
"If" you mind your speed in a dive, you wont lawn dart.
"If" you are gentle with the throttle, you wont snap spin and auger.
"If" you can learn how to manage the engine torque, it becomes an asset.

"If" you can't do any one of the above, you're not going to last very long.

It is by no means impossible to fly but I think the list of quirks present make it anything but an easy-mode plane.  Should one have that opinion, I'd gather it's fair bet you're simply running into someone who has a pretty good idea of how to wrangle the best performance out of the aircraft.

If it were such an easy plane to use; the arena would be filled with K4's instead of Spitfires.

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Re: Quick 109 Question
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2009, 11:46:35 AM »
(E4)-------F4-------G2/G6-------G14--------K4
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Re: Quick 109 Question
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2009, 11:47:38 AM »
Definitely like Sardaukar wrote!  :old:


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Re: Quick 109 Question
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2009, 12:03:20 PM »
it's so easy all you have to do is hit WEP and point your nose slightly upwards.

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Re: Quick 109 Question
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2009, 12:44:03 PM »
I am often puzzled by those who think the K4 is an "easy-mode" plane.  There aren't many, granted, but they seem fairly vocal.

How many times have you seen new players ask the arena something to the effect of "What is a good starter plane?"

In all my time here, I've never seen any 109 recommended on Channel 200; let alone the K4.  In fact, for an even mediocre player, I'd contend that the plane is more a danger to the driver than anyone else.

The plane is one big "if."

"If" you can hit with it, the 30mm will kill most aircraft in one shot.
"If" you can force a fight to the vertical, you have the advantage.
"If" you mind your speed in a dive, you wont lawn dart.
"If" you are gentle with the throttle, you wont snap spin and auger.
"If" you can learn how to manage the engine torque, it becomes an asset.

"If" you can't do any one of the above, you're not going to last very long.

It is by no means impossible to fly but I think the list of quirks present make it anything but an easy-mode plane.  Should one have that opinion, I'd gather it's fair bet you're simply running into someone who has a pretty good idea of how to wrangle the best performance out of the aircraft.

If it were such an easy plane to use; the arena would be filled with K4's instead of Spitfires.

They're just frustrated that someone who is capable and practiced in the K-4 can dominate with it as much as a mediocre pilot in a Spit. ;)
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Re: Quick 109 Question
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2009, 04:47:30 PM »

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Re: Quick 109 Question
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2009, 07:14:47 AM »
That's really cool . Thanks for the link dcannon1 .
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Re: Quick 109 Question
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2009, 01:20:29 PM »
I would suggest that the G14 is actually the better plane. The K4 is a monster of a plane but the pilot is putting all is faith in the engine and the gun. The engine to keep him out of trouble and the gun for one shot kills. Now if a great pilot gets in either plane its going to be a slaughter.

I know what 'the stats' say but the k4 will out turn a g14 in an equal fight every time I don't get the point of the g14 in game apart from the variety of loadout options its nearly a k4 but just isn't  :(

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Re: Quick 109 Question
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2009, 01:32:54 PM »
I know what 'the stats' say but the k4 will out turn a g14 in an equal fight every time I don't get the point of the g14 in game apart from the variety of loadout options its nearly a k4 but just isn't  :(

The 109 G10 had the performance of K4 with the 20mm gondola options.  No-one would fly the k4 with a difficult single 30mm tater gun.

Quite wisely HT removed that and gave good performance in the k4 and the guns with a g14.  The old g10 was both combined.
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Re: Quick 109 Question
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2009, 01:54:46 PM »
Bruv, having those gunoptions is only reason people want G10 back; but they have it, it is called G14 ;)
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Re: Quick 109 Question
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2009, 02:05:16 PM »
Bruv, having those gunoptions is only reason people want G10 back; but they have it, it is called G14 ;)

yup was just explaining to pervert why we have the g14.  and not an uber g10!
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Re: Quick 109 Question
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2009, 02:19:01 PM »
yup was just explaining to pervert why we have the g14.  and not an uber g10!

From what I understand, there never was a G-10 because the "G-10" had the same performance as the K-4.  A true G-10 would have to be a bit slower than the K-4, but would be much faster than the G-14 at ~22k ft.

Although the G-10 had the option of 20mm gondolas, I can't recall seeing any photographs of that loadout.  By the time the G-10 was around, you'd have had to be insane to weigh down the aircraft like that.
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Re: Quick 109 Question
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2009, 02:30:40 PM »
Anax. It was for those who needed ("wanted) 3x20mm cannons to get  kills and have some speed. Kinda spit16/14 mix :D, but you still could fly  109.
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Re: Quick 109 Question
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2009, 02:49:28 PM »
 :salute I was always insane with G10 :) ...and I still am. I carry the gondolas on G14 just about every time.  :cheers:


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