Quick 109 Question

[IrishOne]

 

[Brooke]

Heh.   Yep -- when I see a bunch of text without punctuation, I also just skip it.  Without punctuation, reading it just results in it being an untranslatable stream of babble in my head.

Now, it used to be that writing didn't have punctuation or even spaces between words.  Then punctuation and spaces were invented -- a great innovative leap.  So, the above post perhaps is an homage to writing prior to 500-900 BC or so.

[Wingnutt]

My G14 VS K4 debate ends instantly with the gnarly blisters on the G14, I cannot get used to it, like the cleaner frontal view of the K4.

In a 1v1 the F4 is my fave, but considering more often than not a nice quiet 1 on 1 is not happening, I like the K4, get in, deliver the damage, and move on..  with the F4 you WILL get the kill.. but all to often you have to spend too much time saddling up on the other guy and get picked, or he gets picked by someone clearing your 12.

besides, just love that close pass high deflection shot with the K4 where you see the tater pop in the middle of the other guy's plane about D100 out as the guy shoots through your FOV in an instant, then ya just watch the buffer.. hehe  

[Ardy123]

Taters are like another word that starts with T.... they just plane fun

[R 105]

I like the 109F-4 and 109G-2s the best of the 109s. Even with the lesser gun package, they hold E pretty good. Read Agent360s post on the 109s. He has some great information in it. I think it is called stall tactics or some such.

[Saurdaukar]

...where you see the tater pop in the middle of the other guy's plane about D100...

When you are having an "on" day and can make those shots at 600 yards, full deflection, THAT is satisfying.  The Hail Mary of Taterdom.     

Well, that and seeing the buffer message, and then looking down at your ammo count and seeing "62" remaining.   

[maddafinga]

When you are having an "on" day and can make those shots at 600 yards, full deflection, THAT is satisfying.  The Hail Mary of Taterdom.     

Well, that and seeing the buffer message, and then looking down at your ammo count and seeing "62" remaining.   

Man, I hit a shot like that last night on my first hop.  That was as good as it got though, my gunnery went swiftly downhill from there.  Those do feel really really sweet though, no doubt. 

[Ardy123]

I like the 109F-4 and 109G-2s the best of the 109s. Even with the lesser gun package, they hold E pretty good. Read Agent360s post on the 109s. He has some great information in it. I think it is called stall tactics or some such.

The late model 109s such as the G14 & K4 have so much torque you can do some really amazing 'post-stall' moves, that no other plane can follow.  In a straight forward sense, aka just flying with out pulling tricks, the G2 or the F4 is prob the easiest for people to get used too. The late war monsters, its all about the tricks, and really pulling for the vert fight. READ vert fight = Vert reversals.

[Brooke]

I have a hard time hitting with the 30 mm on the 109K-4 -- but I'm practicing as the next scenario (The Final Battle) will have a lot of K-4's, and I'm looking for flying one.

[Ardy123]

The trick with the 30mm is to force the other plane into a knife fight, then when he is close, (100<) pop one in his general direction. Basically, be close. Also, visualize the shot before it happens and set it up. Plan ahead of time, on how your going to setup the shot. For example, try and bait the guy to drop his nose and dive on you, then pull up and into a reversal, and take the snap shot.

[Saurdaukar]

The trick with the 30mm is to force the other plane into a knife fight, then when he is close, (100<) pop one in his general direction. Basically, be close. Also, visualize the shot before it happens and set it up. Plan ahead of time, on how your going to setup the shot. For example, try and bait the guy to drop his nose and dive on you, then pull up and into a reversal, and take the snap shot.

Ardy's got it.  Anticipation is the key.

To hit with the tater (keeping in mind that my gunnery is the worst there is), you need a couple criteria to be satisfied:

1.)  Accurate anticipation of the EAC's flight path (5-6 seconds ahead).  This is usually the easy part as the majority of MA drivers will resort to a flat turn if in trouble.

2.)  Roll your AC so that you need only worry about ballistics on a single plain.  In other words, you want your wings perpendicular with the EAC's path of flight.  This way, you dont have to make adjustments for lateral displacement of the round.

3.)  Always shoot with the intention of hitting with the first round.  That advice was given to me by moot years back (and from Agent360 to him, IIRC) and it made a heck of a lot of difference.  60 rounds doesn't exactly provide for a lengthy firing time and the space in between each round as it travels through the air is fairly significant.  Its significant enough that if you try and "paint" the area where you think the EAC will be, per #1, he and four friends (exaggerating) can fly in between one round and the next without worry.  If you have a shot, take it and limit it to 5 rounds, max.  If your probability of hitting your target is low, don't pull the trigger - continue the setup until you have the shot you want.  The K4's most excellent advantage is the ability to dictate the fight in the vertical which means you don't need to hope for a snapshot.  If you have the time (admittedly rare in the MA), you should be able to work the EAC into a position where you can not possibly miss.

And use that throttle... 100% Mil and WEP aren't the only two options.  Torque it to the left; chop it to the right.  You'll get your shot eventually.