Which is a better plane?

[ketinkrad]

Which is a better plane, the 109 or the 190. Thank You

[Lusche]

Too broad question that can't be answered. You may define "better" first.

[Saxman]

It's further complicated because it's not like the P-51 or F4U where the basic flight characteristics are more or less the same across all models (IE, despite the massive power difference the F4U-1 and F4U-4 are going to fly pretty much the same).

With the 109s and 190s your fighting style is going to change depending on the model (compare the K4 vs. the G2 or G6, or the Dora and Ta-152 vs. the A5).

[Simba]

The way to truth is first to call a thing by its proper name, Grasshopper. A plane is a tool for working wood. An aeroplane (or airplane) is a heavier-than-air flying machine that relies on its mainplanes for lift.

 

The two German aeroplane types you are comparing each have advantages and disadvantages when compared to each other. The Messerschmitt 109 was the earlier design and usually flown as an air-superiority fighter; the Focke Wulf 190 served the same purpose and was also developed into the Luftwaffe's main high-speed ground-attack aircraft, a bomber-destroyer and, in its late-war inline-engined Ta152H variant, a dedicated high-altitude fighter. You pays your money and makes your choice: what's your usual mission type, pure fighter or ground-attack?

   

[Soulyss]

As mentioned earlier, "which is better" is really too broad of a question.  Looking at just about any two planes in the game you could find one or the other that is "better" depending on what attribute/characteristic is in question. 

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you are new the game (my apologies if that is incorrect).  Between the two planes I would say that the 190's (especially the D9) would offer a shorter path to initial success, while at the same time offering less options for ACM to the newer player.  The 190's are more stable than the 109's and have a gun package that IMHO is easier to hit with and are fast enough to help keep you out of the tower.  Outside of the 400mph boom and zoom/run gameplan however they will be harder to have success with for the newer player.  Easier, but more limited. 

I think the 109's are a little different, the earlier models, 109F, 109G2, are easier to handle, than the 109K, and are more nimble as well but slower.  The K has enormous power up front that can be a little tricky to handle at first and the 30mm will test your aiming for awhile.  If you get over initial troubles I think the 109's are more capable fighters in general than the 190's. 

These are just my impressions, I should also mention that I actually have very little time in either type.

[thorsim]

if you are new to this you are gonna die a lot ...

don't fret everyone dies and everyone new dies a lot ...

soo if you want to wade in and fight tooth and nail i suggest that you use the 109 f-4 as it should maneuver as easily as most anything else in the set ...

if you want to pick your opportunities and hit and run i suggest the 190d9 as it can pretty much get away from anything in the set given 1/2 a chance ...

keep asking questions when you get frustrated as the wisdom of others will get you further faster, remember it is a game that has aspects of skill and knowlege so time will improve your results as long as you keep wanting to learn.

GL

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[JunkyII]

Which is better? Well all luft is better then any other rides so they are pretty darn good




Saxman,
If your flying a 152 like a dora, you arent flying it right

[Saurdaukar]

No need to repeat the "better" variable.

This question was often asked in interviews with then-alive german sticks; Galland, Rall, etc, etc.

The general consensus was that the 190 was the better combat aircraft by most measures.

One pilot interviewed... I cant remember who for the life of me... Sheinhoff, maybe, stated that for "flying pleasure" the 109 was preferable but in a hostile environment, he would choose the 190 due to its relatively superior durability and survivability.

[Saxman]

Saxman,
If your flying a 152 like a dora, you arent flying it right

Where did I say it was like flying a Dora? I said compare flying a Dora and 152 to an A5 and they're VERY different.

[JunkyII]

Where did I say it was like flying a Dora? I said compare flying a Dora and 152 to an A5 and they're VERY different.

Ah thought you were putting the dora and 152 in same category, thats like putting a civic in the same category as a bmw

[Saurdaukar]

Both, of course, falling victim to the A5 (911 Turbo). 

[JunkyII]

Both, of course, falling victim to the A5 (911 Turbo). 

True A5 is a beast

[thorsim]

well then the a8 must be this ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo2FpKczRuQ

True A5 is a beast

[JunkyII]

well then the a8 must be this ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo2FpKczRuQ

A8 is like a suburban of a fighter, It goes around pretty stable, cant turn, but holds alot of what it carries

[FLS]

No need to repeat the "better" variable.

This question was often asked in interviews with then-alive german sticks; Galland, Rall, etc, etc.

The general consensus was that the 190 was the better combat aircraft by most measures.

One pilot interviewed... I cant remember who for the life of me... Sheinhoff, maybe, stated that for "flying pleasure" the 109 was preferable but in a hostile environment, he would choose the 190 due to its relatively superior durability and survivability.

I believe Rall said that the 190 was superior but the 109 "fit like a glove"  and it would easily do whatever he wanted it to. Probably a popular sentiment.