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Offline kingcobradude

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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2010, 11:50:41 PM »
ok this is where your epic facepalm pic goes dude  :aok
ok here works too. but really
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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #61 on: March 21, 2010, 11:50:47 PM »
the Grease Gun was an SMG... this means it is unrifled and therefore only effective within 100-500 feet give or take... let alone 500 YARDS out :lol

You really are an idiot...

Sub-machine gun only means that it fires PISTOL ammunition at a high rate...  As opposed to a MACHINE gun which fires rifle ammunition, such as .303 or 30-06 at a high rate...

Sub-machine gun barrels most certainly ARE rifled you tard...

And a 45, fired from a pistol or SMG is really only accurate to about 50 yards (at best) effectively...  The longer barrel of the M3 offers very little if any accuracy beyond standard pistol ranges...
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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #62 on: March 21, 2010, 11:52:36 PM »
and just how do I aim with a pistol at point blank, let alone 500 yards

If you cant aim the small arm we already have, how do you expect to be able to aim your precious SMG?
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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #63 on: March 21, 2010, 11:55:13 PM »
If you cant aim the small arm we already have, how do you expect to be able to aim your precious SMG?
thats where its appropriate to pray and spray
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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #64 on: March 21, 2010, 11:57:30 PM »
with a 25-30 round magazine against an airplane?  Go right ahead dude.

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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #65 on: March 21, 2010, 11:58:08 PM »
with a 25-30 round magazine against an airplane?  Go right ahead dude.
carry more than one mag
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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #67 on: March 22, 2010, 12:03:38 AM »
seriously an unrifled .45 round wont travel the distance needed to kill a plane
And if it did reach the plane, it wouldn't have the velocity necessary to do any real damage...
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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2010, 12:06:00 AM »
ok this is where your epic facepalm pic goes dude  :aok
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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #69 on: March 22, 2010, 12:06:11 AM »
I just love people that are always right no matter how much evidence is stacked against them, and keep going even though they are making a complete idiot of themselves.  Some people never cease to amaze me.

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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #70 on: March 22, 2010, 12:08:43 AM »
I just love people that are always right no matter how much evidence is stacked against them, and keep going even though they are making a complete idiot of themselves.  Some people never cease to amaze me.
to think the youth of today will be looking after us when we get old and feeble.  :( :old:
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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #71 on: March 22, 2010, 12:09:07 AM »
And if it did reach the plane, it wouldn't have the velocity necessary to do any real damage...
and if it hits the prop, the props toast
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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #72 on: March 22, 2010, 12:11:53 AM »
or the prop may just bat it straight back to you. Caught and bowled kingcobradude.
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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #73 on: March 22, 2010, 12:15:28 AM »
or the prop may just bat it straight back to you. Caught and bowled kingcobradude.
if it hits it jut right thats true, but the prop woill also suffer damage
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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #74 on: March 22, 2010, 12:17:08 AM »
Kingcobradude, you might want to study up more. You're young yet, so you may not know that all bullets are different. Pistol bullets are often very weak In aces high they would be a mere fraction of the stopping power of "peashooter" 7mm guns on some early war planes.

The .45 caliber weapon is a larger diameter, but slower moving round. It was used because it imparts more energy/damage into a human as it enters them. This means it has much less penetration. They were point-blank weapons. More than once, a german soldier has run across a part of a battlefield and been shot at by Tommy guns with no effect. One kraut even found spent .45 rounds in his cuffs and pockets, and had some bruises where they hit.

They are never (repeat, NEVER) goin to damage a plane, a prop, anything on the planes in AH with any number of hits unless you're literally standing on top of one and he's not moving. Even then you only "might" hurt the pilot if you unload a clip. There is a reason the .45 is not used anymore in modern law enforcement.



That's totally ignoring the fact that it's foolish to pretend this ever happened in WW2. I won't spoil your fun, but I will say if you research Bf-109s and the tropical variants you might find a little more fuel to your fire. I just hope you absorb some knowledge in the process

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