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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #90 on: March 22, 2010, 10:33:10 AM »
As a small side-comment to yours, the 9MM handguns actually have greater range and accuracy over the .45s because they have a higher velocity and a lighter slug. Often times they do not have the "stopping power" to put a person down (i.e. kill them, incapacitate them) with a single hit because it is so powerful it's going all the way through them and then through whatever else they hit after that. The thing about the .45 is that it "stops" people because it transfers what energy it has upon impact, and has little or none left after (if) it penetrates all the way through. The 9mms retain their E, to put it in AH terms, far better.

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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #91 on: March 22, 2010, 10:40:41 AM »
As a small side-comment to yours, the 9MM handguns actually have greater range and accuracy over the .45s because they have a higher velocity and a lighter slug. Often times they do not have the "stopping power" to put a person down (i.e. kill them, incapacitate them) with a single hit because it is so powerful it's going all the way through them and then through whatever else they hit after that. The thing about the .45 is that it "stops" people because it transfers what energy it has upon impact, and has little or none left after (if) it penetrates all the way through. The 9mms retain their E, to put it in AH terms, far better.
Yes sir, my apologies for leaving ballistic speed out of the equation. I'm not a fan of the 9mm even though it's a faster bullet, it's too much like firing a .38 super...I've seen people and animals take a hit and keep running where the .45 and .40 knock them down.
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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #92 on: March 22, 2010, 12:44:02 PM »
or some more trips to the DA

LOL!  That reminds me, I'll be posting those films this evening when I get home from work.  I bet he was wishing he had a grease gun as he was floating in his chute.


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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #93 on: March 22, 2010, 12:50:53 PM »
ok brown baron. But I did receive a radio message in orange at an inconvenient time



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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #94 on: March 22, 2010, 03:47:41 PM »
LOL!  That reminds me, I'll be posting those films this evening when I get home from work.  I bet he was wishing he had a grease gun as he was floating in his chute.


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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #95 on: March 22, 2010, 04:19:01 PM »
yOUY AUGERD ANYWAY SO i COULD HAVE GONE DEER HUNTING WITH THAT GREASE GUN

After you were shot down, why waste time to return to base when it's quicker just to auger and get a new one?


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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #96 on: March 22, 2010, 04:22:26 PM »
Look...we could go on with one line responses all night, but it comes down to this...
1.It was NOT issued to pilots during ANY period of time.
2.It would not have a significant imapct on gameplay
3.It would distract the AH team from many, more important tasks.

1. it WAS issued to pilots during the vietnam war i havent had time to search for a preticulear squadred that used it in WW2
2. Its better than carrying a pistol
3. ITs realitively easy to make

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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #97 on: March 22, 2010, 04:31:00 PM »
1. it WAS issued to pilots during the vietnam war i havent had time to search for a preticulear squadred that used it in WW2
2. Its better than carrying a pistol
3. ITs realitively easy to make
So what? The Vietnam war was around two decades after World War Two, and the last time I checked, Aces High II was not a Vietnam War-era flight simulator.
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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #98 on: March 22, 2010, 04:34:23 PM »
This ain't Vietnam.
99% of pilots .ef out of their chute after bail anyway.
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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #99 on: March 22, 2010, 04:37:18 PM »
So what? The Vietnam war was around two decades after World War Two, and the last time I checked, Aces High II was not a Vietnam War-era flight simulator.

Im going to do some reseatch and see what squadrens if any used it in ww2 im shure at least 1 used it otherwise just dont continue on hte conversation

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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #100 on: March 22, 2010, 04:46:11 PM »
Im going to do some reseatch and see what squadrens if any used it in ww2 im shure at least 1 used it otherwise just dont continue on hte conversation
Please study spelling while you're at it...see you in a few months and good luck with finding information that doesn't exist.
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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #101 on: March 22, 2010, 04:55:53 PM »
1. it WAS issued to pilots during the vietnam war i havent had time to search for a preticulear squadred that used it in WW2
2. Its better than carrying a pistol
3. ITs realitively easy to make

The only pilots that I've read about during the Vietnam War that carried extra personal weapons in their planes were FAC pilots and it wasn't a standard thing, some carried them and some didn't. 


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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #102 on: March 22, 2010, 06:21:21 PM »
LOL!  That reminds me, I'll be posting those films this evening when I get home from work.  I bet he was wishing he had a grease gun as he was floating in his chute.


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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #103 on: March 22, 2010, 06:29:35 PM »
well the films?

the films of me kicking your bellybutton in the DA?  What part of "when I got home from work" do you not understand or do I have to type it slower for you to understand?


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Re: the m3a1 "grease gun" for pilots after they bail out
« Reply #104 on: March 22, 2010, 06:35:20 PM »
Please study spelling while you're at it...see you in a few months and good luck with finding information that doesn't exist.

My computer messed that up it has automatic correct for the internet.