-G lead shots ...

[thorsim]

ummm ...

they make me sad and annoyed ...

should they ?

t

[fudgums]

262s shouldnt be able to do it, its wings should break when -2Gs are felt on the air frame. 

[mensa180]

I agree, it seems all German iron is highly over modeled in this fashion.  I've read many reports where they said no more than -1G would surely damage the aircraft beyond repair or recovery.

[JunkyII]

I think this topic of discussion came up on 200 the other day....I think it ended up with someone finding a loop hole in the flight model and gaming it....sort of like when people bail before a bomb lands on their flak.








 

[Impakt]

I brought it up on 200. Just frustrated with a d 200, stick stirring C-205 that kept doing neg G such that I could just not hit him. I had read HEARSAY (I don't know---just read it) with regard to my former game that it creates micro warps. Anyway, I just vented my frustration. When I am in trouble I do evasive maneuvers, ie, defensive scissors, or a barrel roll and go for the overshoot. Many, many players simply micro stick stir with slight rolls and repeated negative gs. Oddly the sim lets this happen with no loss of E. I've actually flown straight, easing the nose down, or tapping the "I" key---and the wiggling con pulls away. Its a game. I'd like Thor to post his stuff on the 151 vs Hispano---so we can discuss if the Hispano is way over the top. If someone knows the truth about neg gs and warp I'd love to hear.

 

[kilo2]

There was a 190 doing that same thing today. Part of me thinks it is lame but there is another part that thinks its just trying survive. What are they suppose to do just let you kill them.

Don't like it but see why they do it.

[LLogann]

Without any data in front me........................... ..............

I have to think -2 is far below what the actual gForce needed to break the 262's wings off.

Where is grizz?  Where is Lusche?

[Wingnutt]

I was in a D11 chasing a A8, at D400 he started the electric fish dance..   I took me well over 1000 rounds to kill him, it seemed like many of them just.. passed through him    no hit sprites nothing..  It was absurd how LONG it took me to kill the guy, he would nose down hard then up then flip left and right.  I totally gave up on trying to "lead" him, because his plane pointed 3 different directions every second,  so I just aimed at the general path he was taking.. I.E. the heart of the spasm and just fired when he crossed it..

he (pilot) would have been unconscious or completely disoriented a few seconds into this crap.

[Wingnutt]

Where is Lusche?

probably already making a pie chart 

[LLogann]

 

Right now, in my hotel room, I'm at -1 gForce.

I agree, it seems all German iron is highly over modeled in this fashion.  I've read many reports where they said no more than -1G would surely damage the aircraft beyond repair or recovery.

[grizz441]

 
What's funny is when a player cries foul on a jet doing some controlled neg G maneuvers as 'gaming the game' only to /.ef in his tank as a bomb is about to hit it.  How does that work in RL?  A tank driver sees a bomb is going to hit him so he magic school buses it out of there?    The irony!

[stodd]

I was in a D11 chasing a A8, at D400 he started the electric fish dance..   I took me well over 1000 rounds to kill him, it seemed like many of them just.. passed through him    no hit sprites nothing..  It was absurd how LONG it took me to kill the guy, he would nose down hard then up then flip left and right.  I totally gave up on trying to "lead" him, because his plane pointed 3 different directions every second,  so I just aimed at the general path he was taking.. I.E. the heart of the spasm and just fired when he crossed it..

he (pilot) would have been unconscious or completely disoriented a few seconds into this crap.

[ink]

it seems to me that if the average man can handle 5 G's, they would make the planes to go to at least that limit....

To think the 262's wing's rip off at 2 g's is....

[Wagger]

Been in Armored vehicles.  believe me unless you just unass the vehicle you are dead meat.  You would not see it coming.

[CptTrips]

it seems to me that if the average man can handle 5 G's, they would make the planes to go to at least that limit....

To think the 262's wing's rip off at 2 g's is....

I believe he was saying -2g.

Wab