Stats revisited; comparing A5 to F4U-C

[Torque]

Just having fun Naso   <np>. I took no offense to your comment

[This message has been edited by Torque (edited 09-29-2000).]

[Dnil]

I know no one cares but check out tour 7 stats, I think its tour 7, for me.  My hog stats are far superior to any other plane I flew.  I generally fly B&Z.  I would spray and pray like a mofo in the chog, would open up at 600 or so.  Meat on the table.  I flew the g10 also, didnt fire over 200.  Big difference.  Trying to help a squaddie bring up his k/d, told him dont fly real acm, its a game, fly like a game.  I fly this one completely different then i did WB, completely. Check the stats for skyhawk, them guns be mini slammers.  

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Dnil---Skyhawk until I get Dnil back
Maj. 900th Bloody Jaguars
Part time aircraft restorer. www.kingwoodcable.com/jheuer

[F4UDOA]

Naso,

I understand what you are trying to say. You apparently don't understand that you can't have thing's your way just to suit your needs without evaulating the entire planeset based on the same criteria.

1. You want to limit the planeset to 1944?
From the book
"America's One hundred Thousand".
"July 1944:Vought begins building 200 F4U-1C versions of the Corsair with four 20Mill. Cannons instead of the usual 6 machineguns."
One more
"The first cannon version appeared at the end of August 1944, and was an initial indication of the Navy's trend towards the 20Mill weapon."

So again Naso, I may be a wall, but in this case the writing is on the wall, read it!
The F4U-1C is a 1944 varient of the F4U-1A which is in fact a 1943 bird. Kapish?

2. You say
 

Pointing at the fact "the F4U-1C was produced in the same number of the mc205" is pointless because the 200 mc205 produced are the TOTAL number of this kite produced, the 200 F4U-1C produced were PART of 12.000 total.

Go back in time and imagine you as a allied pilot over Italy, if you encounter a mc.205, you encounter a mc.205V.
As a Japaneese pilot if you encounter a corsair you have 1/60 of possibility to encounter a C model, more probably you will fight with a D model.

Go back and imagine you are an allied fighter pilot over Europe or the Med. and chances are you would never see a C205 ehhh, at all.

Using your logic since 1 out of every 60 F4U's built was a -1C then it is not representive of the A/C. And I'm telling you that since there was only 200 C205 built that it was not a representation of WW2. There were more Brewster Buffalo's in service with the Finish than C205 in Italy.
So in fact the odds of an allied pilot running into a C205 at all were about the same as running into Amelia Airheart trying to cross the Atlantic. At least the F4U-1C saw heavy combat in the Okinawa campain for sure. How much fighting did the C205 see?
MAG-31(Marine air group not squadron) was equiped with F4U-1C during the Okinawa campain and scoring 71 kills during the campain and at least one ace.

If you only want to encouter A/C in
Aces High that were common then you should start off with the assumption that you will see Mostly American and Russian designs. Accompanied by SpitsIX, 109F and early G's and 190A's with very little representation from Italy. You cannot pick and choose which A/C you would like to fight against because you don't like the guns or the flag.

The real differance here is that you will not find that Hog drivers do not want to limit the plane set by perking everything that we cannot defeat easily. Where as some LW pilots want to perk everything that is difficult to kill or may kill you. And at the same time want every late war varient of there A/C readily available.

Naso looking at your scores it is obvious that you fly allot of Bomber missions or ground vehicles. This is probably why you don't like the C-Hog because it is used to kill Buff's and tanks more than any other A/C. If they did get rid of the C-Hog I bet your next post would be to ban the Tiffy.
Wait until they model the Sturmovik. Then you will really have something to complain about.
And I will just enjoy the variety.

Later
F4UDOA

[Hooligan]

Vermillion:

P-47M not N (don't be a fool!)  

Zigrat:

The 4 cannons and 900 20mm rounds weigh exactly as much 6 .50s and 3350 .50 rounds.  The bomb pilons and rocket rails for ground add drag as well as weight, something that the P-47d-30 suffers from also.  Additionally, 100 or 200 lbs (or more) of weight creep was pretty standard in a model advance as more armor or equipment was almost always added.

Hooligan

[Naso]

F4UDOA, you dont kapisch (capisci), i fly the Chog too, i fly every F...ing plane in the planeset, and i have fun doing it (and being downed) !!!!  

AND, i dont want the Chog banned, i never said that, i am just saying that talking about numbers taked out to other considerations is'nt reasonable IMHO, i repeat IMHO, so please, dont confuse me with the people asking others to adapt to theyr will, UNDERSTOOD ??  

Reread all the post i have writed in this post, and try to read it without biasing.

I wil fly the spit XIV, the dora the F4U4 the me262, and any plane will go out from the pencil of HTC's staff, and regarding the perking question, my opinion is if you perk the dora, then you have to perk the HogC and the SpitXIV, i think they (in different manners) are equally "uber"  , but, most important think, my will is HTC dont perk ANY plane (obviously because i will never reach enough perk points  ).

Read my lips: "I dont want to take out your toy, if you want to use it, use it".

But please, leave the others ask for theyr toys, like you're asking for your.

I am just asking you and others to find a common land of discussion to finally stop to waste time, if this is impossible for you, ok, and bye bye  

Torque i understand you was joking, but, what the hell means "kinky"???  


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[Vermillion]

Naso, "kinky" used in this way means something that is sexually outside the normal, in other words a strange or unusual sexual act.

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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure

[Naso]

Oh, i see, somethink like this?

   

"Honey i'm home" !!  

[gatt]

Hi Verm,
I somehow disagree with you. The debate about the C.205 and C-Hog numbers is, IMHO, wrong.

The question is: do we want fighters/bombers built in other nations than US-UK-D-J-R? I.E., do we want a/c built in small numbers but very interesting and useful to build historical scenarios? If you say yes to Italy, France, Rumania, Poland (what else?) ... then you cant compare figures the way you do.

I understand that Italian fighters dont fit well in this late war planeset. Actually allied pilots often encountered Macchi C.200s, C.202s and Reggiane 2001s over North Africa, Malta, Sicily and south of Italy, indeed. But this is another problem.

<S>

GATT
4° Stormo Caccia

[This message has been edited by gatt (edited 10-02-2000).]