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Offline VonMessa

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Re: I see some problems with WW1
« Reply #60 on: March 15, 2010, 03:02:31 PM »
All I have seen, for the most part, is people trying to get comfortable withthe new arena, the new planes.  Im not so concerned about behavors and arena decorum right now.  People just want to get the lead out...

Although last night I did tangle with a few people who really..I mean REALLY had a handle on things.  Fight for my virtual life I did.....I think I came out of those at about 50/50.  I'm still not 100% yet but Im digging air combat again :)

I agree for the most part.

I think being dogpiled on by the red guys is kinda fun and makes for a great adrenalin rush.

Being dogpiled on by the green guys is not.

Having random ground fire hitting you in the cantaloupe is not, either.

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Re: I see some problems with WW1
« Reply #61 on: March 15, 2010, 03:58:30 PM »
Just curious, as I have not seen anyone do it yet, but why not just call out you want to do a 1 on 1, or 2 on 2 and arrange it over the radio, especially if a couple of opposing bases have no one flying from them?  Just a thought.

ever try this in the ma? a bunch of dweebs will also go there to pick you while your in the middle of your 1v1/2v2, just because they can.

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Re: I see some problems with WW1
« Reply #62 on: March 15, 2010, 03:59:36 PM »
IMO once the WWI arena flattens out you'll get the die-hard furballers in there who kill for 1v1s.
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Re: I see some problems with WW1
« Reply #63 on: March 15, 2010, 04:16:28 PM »
So most of the complaints in this thread about problems in WW1 are basically that the players in WW1 act just like the players in the WW2 MA.

OK, gotcha.

So it's not really a problem in WW1 at all.

It's a player problem. Thanks for clearing that up guys.

Skuzzy's 3 step approach to fighting WW1 on page 2 of this thread works pretty well in my experience. So, I guess the problems is sol-ved as Clouseau used to say.
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Re: I see some problems with WW1
« Reply #64 on: March 15, 2010, 04:50:34 PM »
Heh I noticed that when there was a swarm of red dots, the best bet for life is to join a swarm of greens and roll in.  Then it becomes a case of which swarm can re-up sooner and the dog pile pushes from one airfield back to the other.

It is ok as long as  you are aware of the way the game is played and dont go off all lone ranger. (not saying I like the massive ganging but at least its workable if you work together)
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Re: I see some problems with WW1
« Reply #65 on: March 15, 2010, 05:25:52 PM »
Man, I dont know why some of you guys are whining so intensely.  Im absolutely loving the challenge of it.  The speed of it is so enjoyable.  In this arena I can screw up big time and then actually get a fair reversal...and get outflown, shot up, screw up again...and then get another reversal.  And survive two, three, four....five attackers simultaneously.   And kill my opponent, and then another.  And when my plane plows in I dont mind at all because I was able to put up a worthwhile fight without the crutch of enormous redicluous alt grabbing extendable horsepower and massively heavy hitting cannon.  Heres its a good old fashioned bar fist fight on a dirt floor and it is fun as hell.

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Re: I see some problems with WW1
« Reply #66 on: March 15, 2010, 08:56:16 PM »
In my honest opinion it is no different in the WWII than in the WW1 arena . Hordes are hordes, pickers are pickers, and rammers are rammers..If the LW in wwII only  had 4 plane set ,that was as evenly matched then you would have the same problems.Their is no differance Acm is Acm in both arenas. There are people looking for a fight ,and those looking for kills. For those who say that the wwI is better I disagree.Dogfighting is dogfighting, running is running Picking is picking .If it was real you would have squadrons of planes fighting, and once one was down he was down and didn't come back with an alt and speed advantage to  pick you once on the deck, after he re upped a new plane.

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Re: I see some problems with WW1
« Reply #67 on: March 15, 2010, 09:18:10 PM »
"I really hate it when im busy pounding lead into a bogey...."

 When you're just one of several friendlies in a conga line on an enemy bogy and
you do that (call a 1-on-1) do you really expect anyone to respect that? They
could careless as they hope to be firing the golden "bb" that nails enemy con.
It also sounds like you're spraying and praying from long distance with zip, zilch,
nada for SA too.
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Re: I see some problems with WW1
« Reply #68 on: March 15, 2010, 10:40:01 PM »
Awww sweet now this is my kind of topic the hordeing is a complete joke ! theres no honor..the country jumping  has to stop ive said it before and ill say it again HONOR depicts no country jumping ...unless once a month or once every tour ive never agreed with country jumping ...i like No Mans Land but i kept going there last night and lo and behold here come the horde right to the middle all i hear is its furball ....not hardly man ....a good furball is basicly even numbers all around but im good ill play it some but untill some real tactics are included like base takeing zepplin killing fuel depots bombing and such ill stay in the middle or just practice with a squad member .....first couple of days it was really cool everyone seemed to keep it all even but alas the horde masters have made it a complete joke ...if its even peeps are changeing country's to have the edge ...its a joke ...ok sorry for the rambleing im just irritated thats its come to this already 1 week into new ww1 planes ....im sure ill be ducking tomatoes for my comments but its how i see things .....i see some good things happening with the ww1 arenas dont get me wrong i love the ww1 planes it just teh hordeing tactics anyways ive said my peice  :salute

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Re: I see some problems with WW1
« Reply #69 on: March 15, 2010, 10:42:36 PM »
Awww sweet now this is my kind of topic the hordeing is a complete joke ! theres no honor..the country jumping  has to stop ive said it before and ill say it again HONOR depicts no country jumping ...unless once a month or once every tour ive never agreed with country jumping ...i like No Mans Land but i kept going there last night and lo and behold here come the horde right to the middle all i hear is its furball ....not hardly man ....a good furball is basicly even numbers all around but im good ill play it some but untill some real tactics are included like base takeing zepplin killing fuel depots bombing and such ill stay in the middle or just practice with a squad member .....first couple of days it was really cool everyone seemed to keep it all even but alas the horde masters have made it a complete joke ...if its even peeps are changeing country's to have the edge ...its a joke ...ok sorry for the rambleing im just irritated thats its come to this already 1 week into new ww1 planes ....im sure ill be ducking tomatoes for my comments but its how i see things .....i see some good things happening with the ww1 arenas dont get me wrong i love the ww1 planes it just teh hordeing tactics anyways ive said my peice  :salute
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Re: I see some problems with WW1
« Reply #70 on: March 15, 2010, 10:46:18 PM »
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What has country jumping to do with (lack of) "honor"?

How does disabling country jumping prevent hording? FYI, Once we had 12h waiting time, but no less hording in any way...
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Re: I see some problems with WW1
« Reply #71 on: March 15, 2010, 10:55:48 PM »
What has country jumping to do with (lack of) "honor"?

How does disabling country jumping prevent hording? FYI, Once we had 12h waiting time, but no less hording in any way...

Thats nuts.  We switched countries because the guys we were fight were getting spanked.  When you switch to that side, you don't have to fly as far to the fight.  :aok

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Re: I see some problems with WW1
« Reply #72 on: March 15, 2010, 11:01:07 PM »
Thats nuts.  We switched countries because the guys we were fight were getting spanked.  When you switch to that side, you don't have to fly as far to the fight.  :aok

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We usually log in and switch to low side. Short flights, many bandits. What's not to like?
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Re: I see some problems with WW1
« Reply #73 on: March 15, 2010, 11:40:57 PM »
I'm one of those that think the WW1 arena will be pretty empty in the not-too-distant future unless some new wrinkles are added....such as something to bomb, or at least some type of objective for people to go after.   I don't think there needs to be base-taking because to be true to WW1 historically the front lines were pretty static for long periods of time.  Maybe the objectives should be to bomb ammo bunkers, fuel and barracks.   Not strats but individual bunkers that are arrayed behind the front lines of each side.  Bomb enough of those and the enemy has to move back to a new trench position or something along those lines.   I don't see why the existing objects used in WW2 can't be just imported into WW1 since they're not especially styled to look like WW2 objects.   Plop some bunkers down behind the trenches, pass out some 50lb and 100lb bombs and let human nature take it's course.

That would give people a reason to team up into attacking groups and defending groups.  I think this would thin out the hordes that prevent the individual battles from happening.    If maps are small and there's an area in the middle that's generally acknowledged as the dogfight area then great.  I'm not anti-dogfight or anti-base grab but am one of those that wants an immersive experience whether in WW1 or WW2, so anything that adds to realism gets my vote.

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Re: I see some problems with WW1
« Reply #74 on: March 16, 2010, 05:41:39 AM »
get rid of 3 countries make it two, the 8 on 1s tonight were a joke a few get shot then 8 all over you  :rolleyes: I came back to try this and its great with 2 on 3s 3 on 3 but the horde is lame, are you guys that bad that you cant hit a plane on your own?


PS what about a forced balance, you get sent to low Number?  (happens in 1st person shooters all the time) anyway I don't know the answer but I do agree it will become the next AvA if stays same..... :bolt:
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