AVA ww1 arena

[dedalos]

Wow...you really are all about negativity...not trying to be totally offensive but, I'm surprised you find enjoyment out of anything more challenging than blowing your nose...if arcade action in the DA is all you can handle just say so...it's not a big deal.

Yes I have had the map open in a 3 on 1...and I was the 1...I usually find myself out numbered regardless of which arena I'm in...and it's a lot more fun than whining about getting picked, HO'd, ganged, or who did what to whom and how.

Challenging?  You just described how frustrating it can be to find the bud guys and how good it is to fight them with company lol.

The real problem here is that you guys cannot accept that someone does not like it and you have to keep posting trying to convince your self, me, the others (don;t really know) that I am wrong for not liking it.  Failure to convince me leads to insults etc.  Just accept it and move on.  As I said before, if you like it have a party in there.  I don;t have to agree with it.

Westy, that goes for you too.  Its funny how if someone does not agree with you guys then something is up with him or he has an agenda.  It is called a different opinion.  I did try it when the AvA Mondays started.  Despite what was being posted here, all I found was gang, ho, and run and every one hugging the ground so their icon would not show.  I can imagine with no icons at all.  So, why bother with it?  The other arenas provide the same but give me a better chance to fight them off.

BTW, in 6 years I have not seen you in there either so what does it mean that I have not been there in the last two weeks?  Based on my posts I would not expect me to be there lol

[jimson]

Selected Dedalos quotes full of constructive ideas and suggestions:


Yeah, the crutch of seeing the enemy is killing this game.  Turn radar off too, it makes it hard to sneak up people undetected and then escape.  Being seen could lead to a fight

Really, the only argument about no icons and dar is the above usually under the cover of the words fun, fight, realistic, etc.  You are just describing an easier way to cherry pick some one.  No fight, no fun (for the other guy), no realism.  

All every one is looking is an easy way to kill someone and then hide and use the words fun, realism and fight to cover their true intent.  The AvA is willing to accommodate all that as long as some people show up.


Yep, easier to gang someone after the frustration of chasing friendlies.


Realy? you have the map/dar open while in a 3 on 1?

Despite what was being posted here, all I found was gang, ho, and run and every one hugging the ground so their icon would not show.

Now, lets move this thread to the AvA forum so it dies off lol


Pay particular attention to the last one.

Now, maybe he is just trying to help. Maybe he isn't just getting a charge out of whizzing all over something. Maybe he doesn't have an axe to grind against particular AvA staffers. Maybe he isn't actually rooting for the arenas failure. Maybe he isn't trying to drive others away from trying the arena.

Maybe this is his way of saying "It's not for me, but good luck."


You can read these other threads and decide who is worth listening to.


http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,284901.30.html

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,280212.0.html

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,280826.0.html

[gyrene81]

Challenging?  You just described how frustrating it can be to find the bud guys and how good it is to fight them with company lol.

Like I said...I'm already convinced that it's a better experience than the LW arenas...but then I don't fall under this definition:

b : a deep chronic sense or state of insecurity and dissatisfaction arising from unresolved problems or unfulfilled needs


I'll see the rest of you guys in the AvA every chance I get... 

[2bighorn]

Now, maybe he is just trying to help. Maybe he isn't just getting a charge out of whizzing all over something. Maybe he doesn't have an axe to grind against particular AvA staffers. Maybe he isn't actually rooting for the arenas failure. Maybe he isn't trying to drive others away from trying the arena.

Maybe he remembers how it used to be, when arena was populated by sticks who were looking for a fight, not absolute realism.
Arena was relatively crowded, lots of fighting, balanced plane sets, lots of fun (for majority). Then for some weird reason things changed.

Maybe he's out of line.

Maybe not.

And maybe you should think before typing loads of crap...

[LLogann]

I really want to waste 70% of my GAMETIME trying to find a bad guy.

Sure get rid of icons, lose radar, lose customers...............

This is a game right?  It's all about having fun right?  I have a few comedians on Channel, but all the same they ain't that fun.

Not going to happen.  



And presently, in WWI.....  Axis has an incredible advantage.

[Twizzty]

I was going to enjoy the AvA tonight, but Dedalos said it was ghey...too bad.  

...if arcade action in the DA is all you can handle just say so...

Just some friendly advise gyrene, I wouldn't go there...Ded is a good stick, really good, and seems like a good guy.

I completely agree with you on the monitor comparison though. If both a 19" and 24" were set to their native res, the 19" would have bigger dots, don't know how some cannot get their head around that.

Hope too see you guys tonight, I tried yesterday but it was 0 everytime I checked.  <S>

[jimson]

Maybe he remembers how it used to be, when arena was populated by sticks who were looking for a fight, not absolute realism.
Arena was relatively crowded, lots of fighting, balanced plane sets, lots of fun (for majority). Then for some weird reason things changed.

Maybe he's out of line.

Maybe not.

And maybe you should think before typing loads of crap...

Yeah, you are right, I was over the top and owe him an apology. I'm sorry Dedalos, I'm the one who is out of line on this one, but man, it just seems that the arena was finding some success with that set-up and it's got to be better than an empty arena right?

[Nr_RaVeN]

Hmm, is that supposed to mean something?  You think in 6 or more years I've never flown with no icons?

Hi dedalos.
Quick question.
How many hours of No Icon flight time do you have under your belt?
If ya don't have much time into it. Give it a try again.

I think you would like it. Your a good stick, you like action,You like a challenge as I see the AC you choose to fly.

 Come on in, Personally Id love to fly with ya or shoot you down as payback either way its a win...

Its not at all hard to find guys, THE DOTS SHOW UP REALY WELL Besides they are moving, Its very intuitive.  If it sucked I would not recommend it to you.

Its intense action when there are pepole in there.

So why not give us a hand It would be great to have you, I'm sure you would can hang well in there.


Hell I'm basically a noob, and I can do it just fine. Your a pro... Lets see what cha got.
Cheers RaVe

[dedalos]

Maybe he remembers how it used to be, when arena was populated by sticks who were looking for a fight, not absolute realism.
Arena was relatively crowded, lots of fighting, balanced plane sets, lots of fun (for majority). Then for some weird reason things changed.

Maybe he's out of line.

Maybe not.

And maybe you should think before typing loads of crap...

Bighorn <----- 

[gyrene81]

I really want to waste 70% of my GAMETIME trying to find a bad guy.

Sure get rid of icons, lose radar, lose customers...............

This is a game right?  It's all about having fun right?  I have a few comedians on Channel, but all the same they ain't that fun.

Not going to happen.  



And presently, in WWI.....  Axis has an incredible advantage.

Since you have yet to give it an actual try...what are you talking about?

I've been in the WWI arenas and the axis planes are not that much better than the allied planes...more like the P-40E vs the A6M5 only slower.

Hope too see you guys tonight, I tried yesterday but it was 0 everytime I checked.  <S>

Try around 8:30-9 p.m. CST...that's usually when I've been catching people on...Mondays have been better than most other evenings.

[2bighorn]

Bighorn <----- 

 

Anyways, just looked in AvA. Two dudes (prolly dudettes), both bishops. Guess what. They were in the air, wingmen, air cap probably... yawn... Forgot to ask them if they think clipboard is disabled or what and they can't figure for that reason that they're alone over Japan... No enemies...

But I'm pretty sure they'll say how fun it was and lots of good fights they had...

[LLogann]

Since you have yet to give it an actual try...what are you talking about?  I'm just starting trouble  

I've been in the WWI arenas and the axis planes are not that much better than the allied planes...more like the P-40E vs the A6M5 only slower.

Current Tour:
plane          Kills          Deaths        K/D
D.VII            55398    50546     1.10
Dr.I            43134    36391    1.19
F.1            21404    28885    0.74
F.2B            7966            12327    0.65
Gunner    255              8            28.33

I'm sorry sir, but did you say something?  Funny but the stats call you a fool.  Not me, just the stats.... I want to make that perfectly clear.

EDIT.......  Of course it also shows that most people want to up the Axis rides.....  So in an AvA WWI setup you would have 100 guys flying Axis and 18 flying Allies.  Is that going to be fun?

[dedalos]

Hi dedalos.
Quick question.
How many hours you have under your belt w No icons?   Were the others flying with same settings. or did you just turn em off in the MA.

If ya don't have much time into it Give it a try again.

I think you would like it your a good stick. come on in Id love to fly with ya

We used to fly with no icons in the DA a while back.  I also got a good taste of what no icons can be when the AvA Mondays started and you lost icons at low alt.  In any case, the problem is deeper than just the no icons.  I really don;t need a lot of time to know what is going to happen.  I've been playing this game for more than 6 years I think?  I have seen what people say they do in an arena and what people actually do in an arena.  You can name an arena anything you want.  The reality is that it will be occupied by the same average AH player.  (I don't mean average in skill).  So, what does the average player look for and do in the arenas?  Most will fly in packs, hit when you are engaged, and then run.  The no icon and no radar set ups cater to that game play.  I don;t mind being ganged if I know they are there.  Getting blown out of the sky in  the middle of the fight because I did not see the third or fourth guy come in is not my kind of game.  I could play Socom or some other online game if I was looking for that.

I play looking for fights.  Any way shape or form.  I really cannot understand how not seeing the bad guy or where he may be coming from, could help in that department.  If you guys like it because it adds more realism that is fine.  Have fun in there, enjoy it if you like it.  However, I will express my displeasure about it and make fun of it because, well, the AvA was something I could use in the past but can't now, and because in my opinion it does not promote fighting.  That is just marketing lol.

The real reason I pissed people off here is that they cannot understand how could someone have a different opinion about something.  Its like you are broken and they try to fix you.  If not fixed, then throw away.

I don;t have match time lately.  When I do, and nothing better is going on I will jump in.  However, it used to be that that was the first place I looked before I did anything else.  Keep in mind that you guys are going to be treated very well in there by the staff.  Until you are not needed anymore.  That is why I told Jimson to give it time.

[dedalos]

 

Anyways, just looked in AvA. Two dudes (prolly dudettes), both bishops. Guess what. They were in the air, wingmen, air cap probably... yawn... Forgot to ask them if they think clipboard is disabled or what and they can't figure for that reason that they're alone over Japan... No enemies...

But I'm pretty sure they'll say how fun it was and lots of good fights they had...

lol, last experience there we had 2 GVs and me chasing a single F4U for sectors.  BBS was full of posts about the great fights that night.  Must have been because of the icons 

[Nr_RaVeN]

 

Anyways, just looked in AvA. Two dudes (prolly dudettes), both bishops. Guess what. They were in the air, wingmen, air cap probably... yawn... Forgot to ask them if they think clipboard is disabled or what and they can't figure for that reason that they're alone over Japan... No enemies...

But I'm pretty sure they'll say how fun it was and lots of good fights they had...

 WoW  Good attitude...That was a positive contribution to the thread.

They were Training..Squads use the arena to train in there Bigshot