Natedog, Superfly, please consider this scheme for the Spitfire MkXIV

[Karnak]

mw,
If the Spitfire MkXIV is to be from the European Theatre I would like it in 610 Squadron colors.  (I always fly in that squadron in boxed sims, if its available.  In EAW I flew in 610 during the BoB, in SpitMkIs).

Replicant,
I did not know that the Hampden was more common than the Wellington.  Thanks.

The Whirlwind is lowest on my list, but it IS a neat looking fighter.  It was FAST for a 1940 fighter.  Imaging if they'd kept developing it and stuck Merlins in it.

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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother

Bring the Spitfire F.MkXIVc to Aces High!!!

Sisu
-Karnak

[Sorrow[S=A]]

In all Fairness Karnak- wouldn't the obvious choice for the Mk XIV Spit be the 402 with J. Johnson's markings? Seeing as he just passed away recently, commanded that squadron and ended the war flying that plane and was the highest scoring spit pilot of the war?

I could not even _concieve_ of it not being his- he only flew the IX and the XIV AFAIK and his XIV would both credit him and the Canadian pilots of his squadron. Or did you plan on not having any Canadian markings on a spitfire? Because the Mk V would be the only other real choice for any Canadian representation in AH in a fighter- unless somehow the P-40 ended up in RCAF livery (fat chance of that).

Sorrow (Genuinely curious).

[mx22]

 

Originally posted by Sorrow[S=A]:
I could not even _concieve_ of it not being his- he only flew the IX and the XIV AFAIK and his XIV would both credit him and the Canadian pilots of his squadron.

Not true, Johnson flew most of Spitfire models. I'm reading his book right now and there he mentions that he flew Spit I, Spit II. I assume he flew in SpitV too. Though I agree, give a great pilot a great plane in AH

mx22

[Karnak]

Sorrow[S=A],
I would be more than happy to have it in J. E. Johnson's markings...IF he flew a razorback XIV.

Actually, I didn't know that he ever flew XIVs.

I think I'd rather have a Spitfire LF.MkIX in 'Johnnie' Johnson's markings.  That way it'd be a nonperk and would be seen in the MA much more often.

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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother

Bring the Spitfire F.MkXIVc to Aces High!!!

Sisu
-Karnak

[SFRT - Frenchy]

Sry I don't really like this paint scheme. Bring on a Free French Spit 14 hehehe!

[Toad]

Sorry, I just can't agree.

The Spit XIV has to be UNPERKED. There is the possibility it could unbalance the arena but nonetheless, unperked.

It was built in an adequate quantity to be "representative" of the type, it's development and combat dates are suitable and compatible with aircraft of other countries now in the unperked planeset.

Besides, in the immortal words of Creamo, it would cause "tears as big as horseturds to roll down the cheeks" of the Luftwhiners.

How can we pass up an opportunity like that?

The flames from the resulting threads would heat the homes of all the elderly in the Northeast if used properly. In these times of impending energy price increases, we must do our duty!

 

[Karnak]

Toad,
Maybe you're right, but I don't think we'll see it that way.  As it is I see calls to perk the lowly Spitfire F.MkIX that we have.

The shrieks of horror and roars of outrage would indeed be loud if the Spitfire MkXIV were introduced unperked.

Unfortunately it would also be, by far, the most common aircraft in the MA.  It'd instantly knock the F4U-1C off of its long held throne.

SFRT - Frenchy,
Nope, not gonna happen.  Wouldn't be prudent.  Not at this jucture.

They just added the Tempest in the colours of Free French ace Pierre Closterman.  We can't have all top end RAF aircraft being flown by Frenchmen.

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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother

Bring the Spitfire F.MkXIVc to Aces High!!!

Sisu
-Karnak

[funked]

Karnak, they'll do the Meteor in RAF markings, don't worry.  

[Glunz]

Yes, bring it unperked. Make AH real 1944 sim.

D-9 can still outdive and outrun it on the deck. At high speed it can outmaneuver it and get away.

With 262, I might ask - what is a Spitfire XIV ?  

[Nash]

If we got the 402 Mk XIV Spit with J. Johnson's markings I would banish my Chog into retirement!

Come on... the only way Canada is gonna get representation is through the XIV.

RCAF into AH!

[Sorrow[S=A]]

Mx-22

AFAIK The only planes J. Johnson ever flew in combat were an early Mk V with fabric Ailerons, the LF.MkIX he scored most of his kills in, and the MkXIV he upgraded to when his IX was struck in the wing root by a FW cannon shell and was too unservicable to be allowed to fly again when he landed. While he probably flew a Mk II in training (Was that the plane he cratered during his training flights?) and surely had ample opportunity to fly a MkI before they were all decommisioned I don't think he ever flew any other planes in combat during WWII.

[Karnak]

While I would prefer to get 'Ginger' Lacey's far east Spitfire MkXIV, any markings will suffice as long as it is a Spitfire F.MkXIVc.

I want the option to take 2 20mm Hispano MkIIs and 4 .303 Brownings.

I don't like bubble canopies and I don't like clipped wings.  Anybody who wants that, please go fly a P-51D Mustang.  Its got both already.

Thank you for your attention.

BTW, do any of you know if Air Vice-Marshal J.E.Johnson's markings included his kill markers?

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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother

Bring the Spitfire F.MkXIVc to Aces High!!!

Sisu
-Karnak

[Pongo]

The only place I have seen a picture of JEJ mk XIV was in a package of 1/48 scale decals. It was an E.

[funked]

 

I want the option to take 2 20mm Hispano MkIIs and 4 .303 Brownings.
I don't like bubble canopies and I don't like clipped wings.

Then fly a Mk. XII.  No reason to neuter the Mk. XIV just to satisfy your PREversions.  

[mx22]

Yep Sorrow,

My original post was to the guy who said that Johnson didn't fly in anything, but SpitIX and SpitXIV. So I just pointed out that he flew most of the widely produced Spitfires (he also flew a pressurized version, SpitVIII?, for some time, I have to get home and look into the book for a Mk number).

mx22


 

Originally posted by Sorrow[S=A]:
Mx-22

AFAIK The only planes J. Johnson ever flew in combat were an early Mk V with fabric Ailerons, the LF.MkIX he scored most of his kills in, and the MkXIV he upgraded to when his IX was struck in the wing root by a FW cannon shell and was too unservicable to be allowed to fly again when he landed. While he probably flew a Mk II in training (Was that the plane he cratered during his training flights?) and surely had ample opportunity to fly a MkI before they were all decommisioned I don't think he ever flew any other planes in combat during WWII.