190A5 vs 190A8

[thorsim]

i have it's your turn.

Then post it.

[Bronk]

i have it's your turn.

You have posted hyperbole. IE feels like/ people said.
I have no problem with the FM , I cant prove a negative.
So good luck with that luftwhiner.

[thorsim]

you could post another positive that is contradictory ...

unless of course you can't find one ...

BTW "feels like / people said" is the only data you are ever going to find
about much of what needs to be modeled in the game. 
since as you should know any chance of absolute proof ended in 1945. 

You have posted hyperbole. IE feels like/ people said.
I have no problem with the FM , I cant prove a negative.
So good luck with that luftwhiner.

[Bronk]

since as you should know any chance of absolute proof ended in 1945. 

Funny, baumer had no problem find weight problem and documenting it. Think he was around in 45 maybe? 

[Karnak]

thorsim,

Your arguments about the 190's maneuverability don't get the response they do because it is German.  A Spitfire fan arguing about how the Spit was a great turn fighter and should turn with A6M2s and Ki-43s would get the same treatment.  The difference is, nobody has ever doggedly argued like that on behalf of any non-German fighter on this board.

An 8,500lb fighter with 197 square feet of wing area is not going to turn as well as an 8,000lb fighter with 242 square feet and to think otherwise is absurd.

[thorsim]

Funny, baumer had no problem find weight problem and documenting it. Think he was around in 45 maybe? 

and he used no data from 1945, or earlier ?

? ? ?

[thorsim]

An 8,500lb fighter with 197 square feet of wing area is not going to turn as well as an 8,000lb fighter with 242 square feet and to think otherwise is absurd.

where have i said one should ?

[Bronk]

LOL persona non grata and still posting,someone missed a click.

[Baumer]

i don't make assumptions, i relay data and then try to sort out what is going on based on other data.

Since you like to continually practice the five D's of dodge-ball, let me fix this statement for you.

"I don't make assumptions, I relay on anecdotal hearsay and then try to sort out what is going on based on other data and change the topic when it doesn't fit."

There is absolutely no further value to continuing this discussion with you Thorsim. The people who actually matter, and or can rationally discuss a topic, have spoken up. Given your inability to rationally discuss issues, or properly continue a discussion with out dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge, I will no longer waste my time trying to discuss anything with you.

Good luck with your future endeavors,

Baumer 

[thorsim]

the best to you sir i hope your travels are all safe in those computer designed vehicles that still need to be hand tested, you know to make sure the data and the real world results are within acceptable ranges of one another.

Since you like to continually practice the five D's of dodge-ball, let me fix this statement for you.

"I don't make assumptions, I relay on anecdotal hearsay and then try to sort out what is going on based on other data and change the topic when it doesn't fit."

There is absolutely no further value to continuing this discussion with you Thorsim. The people who actually matter, and or can rationally discuss a topic, have spoken up. Given your inability to rationally discuss issues, or properly continue a discussion with out dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge, I will no longer waste my time trying to discuss anything with you.

Good luck with your future endeavors,

Baumer  

[thorsim]

LOL persona non grata and still posting,someone missed a click.

probably rewriting the TOS as we post ...

[Masherbrum]

i have it's your turn.

You posted NOTHING.  You are now going to be PNG'd when HTC gets into the office in the AM and thankfully, not allowed to post any more. 

[Bronk]

probably rewriting the TOS as we post ...

Not advisable.

[WMLute]

What I really think, and I posted this opinion WAY back when Thorsim 1st showed up here, is this is a case of a guy who can't fly very well and blaming the game.

Just because HE can't fly a 190 worth a crud doesn't mean many, many other players can.

If you think about it, in a round about way, Thorsim is somewhat right believe it or not.  There is a flaw in the 190 we have in AH that is based on human error and miscalculations.  The problem, obviously, is the pilot.

[thorsim]

4- Flamebaiting, flaming, being abusing, being disrepectful, trolling, spamming or posting to incite or annoy is not allowed. If you cannot make a positive contribution to the thread, then just stay out of it.

pretty much didn't do any of that ...