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Offline Krusty

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Re: ME-262
« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2010, 12:31:34 PM »
Now, now, folks. Let's give a little leeway to our new members from FA or elsewhere. They may simply not know how things work here, or the best way to present themselves on the forums.

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Re: ME-262
« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2010, 12:47:57 PM »
Now, now, folks. Let's give a little leeway to our new members from FA or elsewhere. They may simply not know how things work here, or the best way to present themselves on the forums.
We should all be thankful that, after all this time, somebody is finally checking these kind of things!  :D
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2010, 01:12:42 PM »
lol don't pick on the new guys you bullies.

Banshi if you want to prove them wrong, download the training arena map, create an offline game and make sure the fuel burn is 1.0. Grab a full fuel pony with drop tanks, spawn at 20K from the fields up north and go to whatever alt is best for the mustang (see the ingame charts). Use the max cruise engine setting and wait for the acceleration to end. now you can see the actual range in the E6B. Same with the 262.
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2010, 08:36:34 AM »
Please learn this game a little while longer before you start battles with the data monsters like Lusche.

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Re: ME-262
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2010, 07:42:27 AM »
It's gonna be a pie-chart free for all in here soon...

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Here ya go:

... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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Re: ME-262
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2010, 12:49:13 PM »
^^^


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Re: ME-262
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2010, 12:58:32 PM »
Lol at the pie charts.
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2010, 01:09:53 PM »
I edit a lot of my posts.  Get used to it.

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Re: ME-262
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2010, 02:30:01 PM »
Did a little test and found the 262 went just as far as a p51 given both aircraft have a 25% fuel load flying in a straight line at 10000 ft....................that is just not realistic since the 262 real world range is half that of the mustang. It should be closer to a Spitfire especially given that loss of an engine was common due to mechanical and pilot error and the plane could only barely fly on one and only then with enough alt and speed already built up.

Hello Banshi,

To do a true field test, what you need to do is take off a 262 with 100% fuel load, then run that at MAX CRUISE throttle at cruising altitude.
Then take a P-51D, with 100% fuel, and drop tanks, and run that at MAX CRUISE throttle and rpms, at cruising altitude.

That would give you a more accurate view of flight endurance of both of these aircraft.
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2010, 02:53:16 PM »
scherf :rofl
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2010, 05:40:55 AM »
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2010, 06:02:06 AM »
Did the same test on a spitfire and it's range was about what I expected at a 2 sectors versus the 7 the me-262 went and the 6 3/4 the p-51 went. Since the range of spit is close to the me-262 this again clearly shows the model of the 262 is badly flawed. There now is no doubt what so ever that, for whatever reason, the range of 262 is in error. Basically it has been given what amounts to unlimited fuel especially considering the poor operational dependability of this aircraft.
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #42 on: May 08, 2010, 06:13:50 AM »
Did the same test on a spitfire and it's range was about what I expected at a 2 sectors versus the 7 the me-262 went and the 6 3/4 the p-51 went.


And what about this?

In AH, at fuel burn 1.00, maximum fuel loadout,
the ME 262 has an endurance of 43 minutes at full power at takeoff.
the P-51D has an endurance of 159 minutes at full power at takeoff.

As pointed out by Edgar, you can't just compare 25% internal fuel setting.

Pony has about 4 times the flight time of a 262... why do you insist on comparing 25% fuel tanks and presented real-world data? Where is you data about real world Me 262 fuel endurance?
Did you even noted what I wrote about the Jumoo 004 RW fuel consumption rates?
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Re: ME-262
« Reply #43 on: May 08, 2010, 07:04:04 AM »
Pilots notes for 262 in English here:

http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/Images/Me262/262PilotHandbook.pdf


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Re: ME-262
« Reply #44 on: May 08, 2010, 07:00:06 PM »
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