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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2010, 09:48:51 PM »

One difference? See my post above. Please repeat my tests and post the results if they are different from mine.

Il2 15-30 hits: Tiger gone, or smoking. Each time, each run.
Yak 60-90 hits: Tiger not scratched, even when doing attack after attack...
Never was able to kill a Tiger, but panzers are definitely killable with a yak's 37mm (and therefore by extension so should Wirbys and Osties).

It was one of the topics in the following thread:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,222894.30.html

I believe the old films are still there.

Of course, it would still be a very poor substitute for an IL-2, B-25H or Hurri IID.
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #46 on: May 12, 2010, 09:50:38 PM »
Yes, but it's still an HE round. The B25's pumpkin chucker is similar.
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #47 on: May 12, 2010, 10:35:16 PM »
Yes, but it's still an HE round. The B25's pumpkin chucker is similar.
Umm . . . B-25H can one-shot a Tiger.  Yak can't do it.  I wouldn't call them similar.
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #48 on: May 12, 2010, 10:43:46 PM »
I would, because they both use HE shells, yet are still pseudo-tankbusters.
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2010, 10:45:11 PM »
TRIPLE POST, YESSSSS
« Last Edit: May 12, 2010, 10:52:33 PM by OOZ662 »
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #50 on: May 12, 2010, 10:47:16 PM »
TRIPLE POST, YESSSSS
« Last Edit: May 12, 2010, 10:52:44 PM by OOZ662 »
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #51 on: May 13, 2010, 02:21:02 AM »
I have shot 1/2" steel plate w/ my 30-06 and gone through it. So can a .50cal go through ? Multiple hits in same area..I dont see why not..

Mild steel plate and armor are very different things - even a 5.56 will go right through 1/4" mild steel plate. .50 BMG will shoot through a manhole cover with plain jane ball ammo, but even with AP it really isn't meant for tank armor. And tanks are more vulnerable from the top, but you're not going to be strafing at a 90 degree angle straight down. Hitting the barrel might work, but it would be a pretty small target and you'd have to hit it dead center. I would think your best bet would be to hit something vulnerable like air intakes or exhausts and maybe even start an engine fire. That, or hitting any crew who happened to be exposed or outside the tank.

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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #52 on: May 13, 2010, 07:32:49 PM »
you can't bore a tiny hole through armor with a few thousand small-arms rounds like you could in real life.

:huh

And a tiny hole disables tank how? 

Really, in air to air combat planes get full of holes and still flying, yet tank should just turn on its back and die?


Really folks, get some sense.

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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #53 on: May 13, 2010, 08:14:03 PM »

One difference? See my post above. Please repeat my tests and post the results if they are different from mine.

Il2 15-30 hits: Tiger gone, or smoking. Each time, each run.
Yak 60-90 hits: Tiger not scratched, even when doing attack after attack...


While it may not be as uber as the IL2 it can still kill tanks lusche. Iv disabled (turreted or killed engine) and killed my share of panzers with the YakT back in the day.
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #54 on: May 13, 2010, 09:47:05 PM »
I too have killed panzer's with the Yak-9t have not tried in a while not sure if it still can with all the new updates?

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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #55 on: May 13, 2010, 10:31:04 PM »
:huh

And a tiny hole disables tank how? 

Really, in air to air combat planes get full of holes and still flying, yet tank should just turn on its back and die?


Really folks, get some sense.

You've never seen an infantry-carried anti-tank rifle, have you?

Besides, I never said a tiny hole would disable the tank. I was saying you can't bore holes in Aces High armor. Go fire at the front plate of a Tiger at a single point which induces a ricochet in an M8 for a few days and see if you get through. :)
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #56 on: May 14, 2010, 12:40:41 AM »

You've got the kill, but did you kill it?

There was a long-standing (years and years) issue with treads soaking up tons of damage points and giving kills to 110s that strafed everything that moved. Most were kill stealing.

Sometimes you can disable the treads and the guy towers giving you a kill, but you never penetrated the armor shell.
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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #57 on: May 14, 2010, 05:29:09 AM »
:huh

And a tiny hole disables tank how? 

Really, in air to air combat planes get full of holes and still flying, yet tank should just turn on its back and die?


Really folks, get some sense.

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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #58 on: May 14, 2010, 10:39:26 AM »
You've never seen an infantry-carried anti-tank rifle, have you?

In AH? Nope, never.

Anyways, I've heard that WWII armies which had them won all the battles  ;)


Spall = tank crew smoothie

Spall by what? 50 cal AP rounds? LMAO

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Re: A pony took out my turret?
« Reply #59 on: May 14, 2010, 02:08:37 PM »
A Rook who first flew 09/26/03 at the age of 13, has been a GL in 10+ Scenarios, and was two-time Points and First Annual 68KO Cup winner of the AH Extreme Air Racing League.