Gun sight image size analysis

[BulletVI]

As Baumer posted, Thanks Bullet, for that weblink

the below weblink , I like even better

http://www.tarrif.net/wwii/d_and_d.htm

is from the same website, but shows sources & statistics from all countrys

fighters, attack aircraft, bombers, artillery, Ground Vehicles, Warships, etc....

Information Source List for all data on this website:

http://www.tarrif.net/cgi/production/all_sources_adv.php

Thanks again  Bullet

Ah so i pointed you in the right direction then YYYYYYYYIIIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPEE EEEEEEE 

[BulletVI]

The point is if one sight is demonstrably larger than 128mil, (regardless of model, it's clear that there WAS a Mk.VIII sight that extended to 150mil) there might be others that were as well (IE, I think the Japanese Type 98 had a ring at 150-200mil. I'm trying to find the information on that one).

I thought That most Japanese sights where just 3 circles welded together with a horizontal and vertical line stuck on a wee pole outside the canopy till i flew a Zero in Ace's lol  

[bustr]

I didn't see it but on elevation with convergance.

AH sets the elevation of the guns to cross the slight line at the convergence point.

But it does convergence and elevation calculations from a stationary plane at sea level.

As you change elevations and speeds the ballistics will change. And hence can hit high or low at convergence distance.


HiTech

What an ellegant way to say gunnery ultimatly in AH2 is an artform mastered by experience.

[Saxman]

Has anyone had any luck finding a resource describing the different reticules in detail? I've been trying Google and having almost no luck. Usually I just end up with reproductions, photos, or models of the gunsight itself, with no information on (or even pictures OF) the reticules.

I've seen information to suggest the Japanese Type 98 may have had rings out to 150 or 200mils, but can't find anything definitive to confirm.

Baumer, you mentioned having the data on the Revi 16b. How many mil across is the ring? 50mil? This is one of the few I've found reticules for, and it looks like the ring is about 1/3 the span of the entire reticule (the Revi 16b reticule had a VERY broad cross).

[Baumer]

The Revi 16b works out to be 125 Mil and is the same for the other Revi versions. I'm still looking for sources on the Japanese sights as well. It really is unfortunate the Japanese destroyed so much documentation (especially about equipment) near the end of the war.

I am still looking, but I doubt I will find anything soon.

[BulletVI]

As Baumer posted, Thanks Bullet, for that weblink

the below weblink , I like even better

http://www.tarrif.net/wwii/d_and_d.htm

is from the same website, but shows sources & statistics from all countrys

fighters, attack aircraft, bombers, artillery, Ground Vehicles, Warships, etc....

Information Source List for all data on this website:

http://www.tarrif.net/cgi/production/all_sources_adv.php

Thanks again  Bullet

Boumer tequilachaser investegated the post i put of that web sight and i do believe that there was some info on Japanese sights there. I will look and repost if successful

[Baumer]

There is no information about aircraft sights that I could find. I have gone through the site but I couldn't find anything sorry.

[BulletVI]

There is no information about aircraft sights that I could find. I have gone through the site but I couldn't find anything sorry.

Yeah dam it appears to be mostly vechle and tanks BUMMER

[AKDogg]

I got this off a website and compiled them to these docs.  Its 1 zip file with about 6-8 docs on all the gunsights.

http://www.arabian-knights.org/files/Dogg/Histgunsightdocs.zip

[Baumer]

This website seems to have more data then any other about Japanese sights. I'm hoping to get in touch with the creator and see if he has more on the reticules.

http://sv06.wadax.ne.jp/~gunsight-jp/b/

They have some very nice 3D models as well, so there's plenty of eye candy to peruse.

Here's the right side of the Type 21 A6M 3D model. Notice the sight is modeled, I hope they have the reticule info.

[AKDogg]

That is the sight I made those docs from.

[Saxman]

The Revi 16b works out to be 125 Mil and is the same for the other Revi versions. I'm still looking for sources on the Japanese sights as well. It really is unfortunate the Japanese destroyed so much documentation (especially about equipment) near the end of the war.

I am still looking, but I doubt I will find anything soon.

If the ring is 125mil, then based on the reticule I have the cross works out to just about ~220mil. So pretty clearly larger than 128mil. I'd REALLY like to find one where the actual rings exceed 128mil.

Regarding that website, I've already come across that one while trying to find details on the Type 98. Unfortunately, all it seems to have information on is which sight was used by which aircraft, I didn't see any information on the reticules.

[Baumer]

Saxman I am trying to find the info to make sure all the sights work correctly. However this is not going to be a quick endeavor, nor does it mean that all sights will be made larger if we find an example where one is larger. Also during my conversations with Hitech it sounded like 128 Mil is also a good number to program for. If we find something that's larger it may not be an easy fix in the game. I don't know this for a fact, but it sounded that way.


Btw with a Revi you don't see the whole reticule at one time.

[Karnak]

The Revi 16b works out to be 125 Mil and is the same for the other Revi versions. I'm still looking for sources on the Japanese sights as well. It really is unfortunate the Japanese destroyed so much documentation (especially about equipment) near the end of the war.

I am still looking, but I doubt I will find anything soon.

The Japanese destruction of their records is really frustrating, and not just from this hobby's viewpoint.

It vexes me greatly.  Ah well.

[Saxman]

It would help me to know exactly how HTC intends to handle the new mechanics.

I presume that the mechanical display limitation of the sight is going to be set for each aircraft individually accounting for the reflector size.

However is the max size (128mil) being set individually by aircraft, or will the maximum size be a global setting? If globally, (which seems to me the easiest) would setting the max size to 256mil really be much more difficult to program for? 256 is part of the whole powers of 2 thing that game developers love for graphics, and would seem to accommodate almost all sights (I REALLY don't expect to see any sights exceeding 250mil).