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Offline Ack-Ack

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Re: A-20
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2010, 09:32:00 PM »
It's also worth noting that only around 250 A-20Gs were produced with the 4x 20mm cannon weapons package.  Unreliability led the cannons to be replaced with either the 6x or 8x .50 cal nose weapon package.  Also, out of the 250, I think most of them were converted to the .50 cal nose weapon package.

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Re: A-20
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2010, 10:23:26 PM »

 with all the unperked brit/German and ijn cannon rides dont ya think U.S should have one too ?
  and yes i know the 38 has 1 20mm but thats all we have,unless you want to spend perks on a Chog


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Re: A-20
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2010, 10:35:31 PM »
with all the unperked brit/German and ijn cannon rides dont ya think U.S should have one too ?
  and yes i know the 38 has 1 20mm but thats all we have,unless you want to spend perks on a Chog
The US wasn't big on 20mm cannons due to poor decisions in cannon production methods, as noted in this thread.  The UK, Germany, Russia and Japan had the majority of their fighters armed with cannons, so it is hardly a surprise to see most of their fighters in AH bristling with cannons.

If a US cannon bird were really needed I'd vote for the P-61B.  At least it is interesting.
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Re: A-20
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2010, 10:42:06 PM »
The US wasn't big on 20mm cannons due to poor decisions in cannon production methods, as noted in this thread.  The UK, Germany, Russia and Japan had the majority of their fighters armed with cannons, so it is hardly a surprise to see most of their fighters in AH bristling with cannons.

If a US cannon bird were really needed I'd vote for the P-61B.  At least it is interesting.

 would be far easer to just update a ride that allready came with them, then it would be to put a new ride in the game.


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Re: A-20
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2010, 10:46:29 PM »

 would be far easer to just update a ride that allready came with them, then it would be to put a new ride in the game.
Yeah, but as noted earlier in this thread it would be highly unrepresentative of that aircraft, the A-20, to be cannon armed and yet the cannon version would be the one encountered by far the most frequently.
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Re: A-20
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2010, 10:51:29 PM »
Yeah, but as noted earlier in this thread it would be highly unrepresentative of that aircraft, the A-20, to be cannon armed and yet the cannon version would be the one encountered by far the most frequently.

   some of us prefer a tin can over a plywood box to do our dirty work,so yes there would be a lot of them flying around.


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Re: A-20
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2010, 02:39:34 AM »
Yeah, but as noted earlier in this thread it would be highly unrepresentative of that aircraft, the A-20, to be cannon armed and yet the cannon version would be the one encountered by far the most frequently.

I also believe that operationally, a small amount of the cannon armed A-20Gs saw service and I think those were the ones deployed to the SWP area for combat evaluations.  I have to agree with Karnak.

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Re: A-20
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2010, 05:54:05 AM »
Different engines, can take more fire (I think), slower, looks different, ect...


P.S. I would probably not fly it thought but would enjoy shooting at it  :devil
somehow i can fly an A20 better than a mossie... those Pratt & Whitney R-2600-23 radials seem to have a nice climb/stall character the mossie doesn't :aok and those 6 .50s are amazing
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Re: A-20
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2010, 06:03:58 AM »
Yeah, but as noted earlier in this thread it would be highly unrepresentative of that aircraft, the A-20, to be cannon armed and yet the cannon version would be the one encountered by far the most frequently.


  you speak of   " highly unrepresentative"  lets take the ta-152 for instance,only 42 built. this compared to 250 quad 20mm nose mount Havocs.
     allso only 200 C hogs built.  so maybe these aircraft are also not worthy in the game.


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Re: A-20
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2010, 07:20:41 AM »
Early war US versions of the Hispano 20mm cannons had several problems. One of the biggest was not designing tight enough tolerances for the ammunition. By the time they got the bugs figured out they had settled into using 6 or more  .50's  for most planes.

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Re: A-20
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2010, 08:50:45 AM »
A20 really doesnt need more firepower, and given only a small % were produced with 20mm, and most of those didnt work so were retrofitted with .50s I say

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Re: A-20
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2010, 12:58:11 PM »
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Re: A-20
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2010, 01:13:16 PM »
the A20 we have in game is already a stellar energy dogfighter with the lethal .50 package.  Giving her C-hog lethality is the definition of overkill.
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Re: A-20
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2010, 01:17:18 PM »
It is like the three cannon LA-7, they were extremely rare in WW2, but in AH almost all LA7's in the sky are using the 3 cannon package
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Re: A-20
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2010, 04:28:31 PM »
the A20 we have in game is already a stellar energy dogfighter with the lethal .50 package.  Giving her C-hog lethality is the definition of overkill.
4 20mm and 2 50 cal is not overkill.  17.2 50 cal

4 20mm and 2 30mm is overkill.  36.0 50 cal

50 cal = 1.0

20 mm = 3.80

Mg151/20 20 mm = 3.3

30mm = 11.4

Alright, maybe 17 50 cal is a bit overkill.
Look at the 110 G2 though.  :O

That's overkill.

I have no problems with the 6 50 cal loadout but the 20mm just make it so much better. Of course it will come with a perk price, limiting it's usage. F4U-1c levels maybe?

And 8 50 cals would be nice to have too. Perk it at 2 or 3 if it even requires a perk at all.

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