The WWI arena today

[Lusche]

I really hope the numbers in the WWI arena would pickup one way or another.

Me too... but I don't see any way how that could happen.

And yes, I know I'm a part of the problem for not going there in the first place 

[Yeager]

well with only 4 rides to choose from I lost a lot of my initial interest.  Haven't been in there in a few weeks but every time I log on I have that option, which I am thankful for.  I plan on spending some time in there this weekend.  Just wish they had a few more planes to choose from.

PS I think it was a mistake to add the DR1 at the release of WW1.  Had we a SE5a and Albatross, Nieuport and Spad along with the Camel and DR7 I can pretty much guarantee you we would have had a better and more sustainable community build up then we have so far experienced.

[onerka]

Mano's original point was to nurture the new pilots...keep them in the arena.  And, the thread evolved to the larger issue; even if they do end up enjoying these old kites, what is necessary to sustain the arena?  Pretty much a consensus that in some form more diversity is necessary if the arena is going to grow and stick around...more fm's, a strat game, etc.  Something.

Some of us came to AH simply because of this possibility...the WWI sims elsewhere are static...kinda/very stale.  Still going to be optimistic about this one...no point in being negative until or unless someone turns out the lights.

Nurturing new guys will always be part of what makes it work.

Did notice some good comments about the DR1.  It is not an easy fm in this arena...hard to deal with the torque that is modeled let alone the torque some folks feel would make it more realistic, glad its not there.  It grabs air and floats when with other fm's (different sims) it cuts through air more easily, and...switching ends near the earth - the classic DR move - brings you to earth where again with fm's in different sims you still have lift.  This one is tough - at least for this pilot.  But, not advocating to change it at all.  Clearly some people have it figured out and at that point they are very hard to beat 1 on 1.  When the big fur ball is going on...it moderates some of the 1 on 1 variance in ability...those are good times. 

With Mano again...Spad 13 and SE5a would change this some as the 13 should be able to easily extend from a DR with alt and B'NZ flying...SE5a would do that too with even a little better ability to turn than the 13.  If you were careful you could peck them to death...it might take awhile.

I noticed another thread suggesting one night a week when folks would meet in WWI.  That would certainly help!  Hope folks pick up on that.

Take care,

One

[SCTusk]

How about this idea to encourage new players and breathe some extra life into the sim, as follows:

One (1) only Red Baron Triplane, available on a 'first come first served' basis, if you get shot down you lose it and the guy who shot you gets it (if he wants it, else it recycles to 'first come first served').
If you're not in the air with it after (say) five minutes you lose it, and if you log out or stay on the ground longer than five minutes you lose it.
+ maybe a record kept of current kills and most kills flying the Red Baron triplane.

So no effect on anything important but something to add colour (sorry, USA server - 'color') to the arena, a bit of good clean fun. If you were passing and noticed only 1 or 2 in the arena you might think 'hmmm I could maybe shoot down the current Red Baron' and if it was empty you might think 'hmmm, I can pop in and be the Red Baron'. All in all a very simple thing to make the place more interesting and appealing, take some of the pressure off the new guys (everyone's chasing the Red Baron lol) and encourage a few more over from the main arenas, if only for a laugh.
 

[onerka]

Would be fun...could even do it only one or two days a week to mix things up.  Having only the AH score as a goal...and only killing someone to get points...something like this would be an addition.  

These kind of things never seem to happen unless the player base can affect the change as opposed to programmers.  But, you never know.

BTW...the Red Baron.  Just got a note from Amazon...the recent German movie about the Baron will be available in November.  Guess it wasn't too popular with the current German audience...but some good flying sequences.

[meandog]

I think that is a great ideal....be cool to add a "RED BARON DAY". Would put an extra goal to the game. Perhaps add some sort of tourny's as well, but that is getting way ahead of ourselves I'm sure.

[BaldEagl]

The last time I went to the WWI arena was maybe a month or so ago.  I got ganged on 3 times in a row and left.  Haven't been back since.

Same old same old.

[dog1]

The last time I went to the WWI arena was maybe a month or so ago.  I got ganged on 3 times in a row and left.  Haven't been back since.

Same old same old.

How many times have you been ganged in the MA? Do you still go there? Get your feelings hurt much??  Ganging happens, sad but true. Man up and come on back. Fly smart and take a ganging or to.....get picked while in a ten minute turn fight....get a kill or two. There are peeps in the arena who will help ya and respect the 1v1.  Just like the MA.

 

[Yeager]

Respect the 1v1?  Thats another thing that is starting to turn me off from WW1 arena.  This expectation that the entire half dozen players will just que up, forming a line, and wait their turn for the next gentlemanly joust.  B O R I N G  You people that expect a 1v1 dueling engagement should take your partner and go to the dueling arena.  

Again: You want a safe fun protected 1v1 GO TO THE DUELING ARENA

I have always felt that a big part of this game is being able to deal with multiple cons simultaneously.  That is a giant part of managing the air battle space.  Situational Awareness.

There are on average 6-8 players in there and people, good sticks that trick around in DR1s almost exclusively, are whining about being picked.

But do not worry.  Im spending less and less time in there as it is.

[BGB the 3RD]

People with any notion of fun ww1 fights will not gang 1 Guy.
of you are getting ganged then uWAIT for a friendly to up and fly near them so the 2 vs 2 starts

Yeager maybe your not a good ftr in ww1 arena and that's why you gang
 I have never seen you there
 I fly maybe few hours a week and its typically am Pacific time


If HTC would of put two friendly bases side by side one sea level one at 5k... it would of made the gang bang conga line vanish

And the learning curve would have been way easier.3/4 of the GTE's were auger because they fought at 30 feet

You can't force people to fight a certain way but you sure can encourage

[Yeager]

I think you have it backwards: If you are getting ganged and are unhappy about it then that is your problem.  As a general rule I do not get ganged because of the way I "try" to enter and exit the fighting area.  And for SURE if I DO screw up and DO get clobbered (by some thoughtful fellow trying to save his happless countryman) you will NOT see my text on open popping off with the whines about being picked.

Perhaps you several should just request that HTC rename it the WW1V1 Dueling Arena and have that little message pop up that says "Please do NOT interrupt 1v1 engagements".

I would be fine with that.  You guys would have your dueling arena all to yourselves.

[SCTusk]

Respect the 1v1?  Thats another thing that is starting to turn me off from WW1 arena.  This expectation that the entire half dozen players will just que up, forming a line, and wait their turn for the next gentlemanly joust.  B O R I N G  You people that expect a 1v1 dueling engagement should take your partner and go to the dueling arena.   

 

Well said Yeager, the arena says 'WW1' and I think alot of players want the complete WW1 experience. That includes the opportunity to pull something out of the bag 1v3 (although that often ends badly, but it's great fun having a go). And the other good thing about that is the new guys can join up and help gang someone, whereas 1v1 they don't stand a chance.

[BGB the 3RD]

Lord save me...
I will kick the crap out of aplenty gang bangs....trying to bang me

You cannot compare ma to ww1. You are lucky to have 3 people in there

Ill be back later I need to go

[USRanger]

 

[BGB the 3RD]

Had to go eat dinner

You can't compare ma-1ww
Ma you can look for other bases, ww1 you can barely find a fight.
No issue with me, if I'm constantly being jumped by 3 , I will wait for a friendly to up or ask someone to switch

Screw it.....I'm out of this, I look forward to more fights in kites

Talking about magic special red baron and alot of players want that?  Are you sniffing glue? WW1ARENA IS ALMOST EMPTY

It takes more skill to fight in the kites