Rough Field AC

[Karnak]

That was every airfield on malta during ww2 period.

And Malta is the only place WWII was fought.

[NOT]

And Malta is the only place WWII was fought.

Yes, didnt you know, all fighting was moved there after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.......




NOT

[kilo2]

Yes, didnt you know, all fighting was moved there after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.......




NOT

Fun Fact the same me-109s that were at pearl harbor were also at malta.

And zygote 152s operated off grass fields often. True they were somewhat fragile but most crashes on landings in them was due to pilot error. Many pilots who flew them had fewer than 20 hours of training in fighter aircraft.

[Zygote404]

Once again, grass field != to rough field.  I have given you the information to back up my argument and you have given opinions. 

[kilo2]

You should just ask for a farm field thats been recently plowed and get it over with. Oh yeah with spawn points.

Once again, grass field != to rough field.  I have given you the information to back up my argument and you have given opinions. 

[Zygote404]

Now your catching on.

[Karnak]

Once again, grass field != to rough field.  I have given you the information to back up my argument and you have given opinions. 

You're still not getting it.  Spitfires landed on and took off from unprepared fields at times.  As in, farmland.

[Zygote404]

You're still not getting it.  Spitfires landed on and took off from unprepared fields at times.  As in, farmland.

I'm sure they did.  Operated from I'm sure they didn't.


Now use your eyes and read the paragraph below, paying special attention to the bolded part.

"Air interception duty proved to be the VVS's preferred use for the spitfire, since PVO units protected fixed locations and flew from developed airfields that were less likely to inflict damage on the British fighters fragile landing gear".
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=CJHGyw6HGqEC&pg=PA79&lpg=PA79&dq=fragile+spitfire&source=bl&ots=2BhtAg6ndA&sig=d8GT6Ru70Y9ZWRYQRmnE3MOH3Mo&hl=en&ei=zzCUTNygCYudcZTonaQF&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CDAQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=fragile%20spitfire&f=false

[RoGenT]

I would love to see pure desert map like in North Africa Campaign; That would please the GV dweebs, not to mention the GV Bombing dweebs too 

[kilo2]

I'm sure they did.  Operated from I'm sure they didn't.


Now use your eyes and read the paragraph below, paying special attention to the bolded part.

"Air interception duty proved to be the VVS's preferred use for the spitfire, since PVO units protected fixed locations and flew from developed airfields that were less likely to inflict damage on the British fighters fragile landing gear".
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=CJHGyw6HGqEC&pg=PA79&lpg=PA79&dq=fragile+spitfire&source=bl&ots=2BhtAg6ndA&sig=d8GT6Ru70Y9ZWRYQRmnE3MOH3Mo&hl=en&ei=zzCUTNygCYudcZTonaQF&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CDAQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=fragile%20spitfire&f=false

You cant hinge your whole argument on a fragment of a sentence.

Looks like you had to hurry up and find anything to support your argument. Hurry search google for "fragile spitfire."

[Zygote404]

You cant hinge your whole argument on a fragment of a sentence.

Looks like you had to hurry up and find anything to support your argument. Hurry search google for "fragile spitfire."

Yeah George Mellinger, the guy whose book that is from has no idea what he's talking about.  He's only an expert on ww2 aviation and author of 3 books on ww2 aircraft. You on the other hand ... are just a forum user with nothing to back up what you say.

[kilo2]

Yeah George Mellinger, the guy whose book that is from has no idea what he's talking about.  He's only an expert on ww2 aviation and author of 3 books on ww2 aircraft. You on the other hand ... are just a forum user with nothing to back up what you say.

Dude good research includes more than one source. And more than a fragment of a sentence.

Nothing I have said really requires a source. The things I said about the 152 comes from Focke-Wulf Ta-152 by Thomas Hitchcock. The things I said about poorly trained Luft pilots toward the end of the war is really common knowledge around these parts. I could cite a bunch of different sources for that tid bit.

And I own one of Mellingers books I don't have to search google books if I want to cite it.

[Zygote404]

Dude good research includes more than one source. And more than a fragment of a sentence.

Nothing I have said really requires a source. The things I said about the 152 comes from Focke-Wulf Ta-152 by Thomas Hitchcock. The things I said about poorly trained Luft pilots toward the end of the war is really common knowledge around these parts. I could cite a bunch of different sources for that tid bit.

And I own one of Mellingers books I don't have to search google books if I want to cite it.

In this thread I have provided you with 2 references.  One by David John Hodgkinson, and one by George Mellinger.  Both have written books on WW2 aircraft.  Both are considered experts on the subject.

How many references would like?

So far the only evidence anyone has provided is how they've seen pictures of spitfires taking off from grass fields therefore they must be able to take off from rough fields... thats not very convincing.

[kilo2]

In this thread I have provided you with 2 references.  One by David John Hodgkinson, and one by George Mellinger.  Both have written books on WW2 aircraft.  Both are considered experts on the subject.

How many references would like?

So far the only evidence anyone has provided is how they've seen pictures of spitfires taking off from grass fields therefore they must be able to take off from rough fields... thats not very convincing.

Your argument is unconvincing. Lucky for you I have little interest in spitfires but I am sure someone will come along with more than a fragment of a sentence and a paragraph that says nothing about spits not operating from unprepared fields.

[Nemisis]

I would love to see pure desert map like in North Africa Campaign; That would please the GV dweebs, not to mention the GV Bombing dweebs too 

+1.

Zygote, I'm not seeing much PROOF that spitfires didn't/were unable to opperate from rough airstrips. I'm seeing a lot of examples of where/when they didn't, not that they couldn't.