CV's not being used in the game.......

[waystin2]

dweebs from the 91st.

the Jokers.

Names have been given in the Kingdom of Lameness!

[1Boner]

I could be more specific.

But I won't.

[waystin2]

I could be more specific.

But I won't.

No need my friend, the bait has been thrown out...

[JunkyII]

This is one of the big reasons for actually trying to get a lower score in game for myself. I love the rants people use when you take a CV and don't give it back.

[shiv]

It would be neat if a country could not "own" more CV's than it has ports. Basically once a port has been captured its CV re spawns to its origin port  after say 60 minutes.  We could consider that the CV was "scuttled" and the origin port had made a new fleet.

Great idea. This would force the side with the CV to use it before they lose it anyway.  And it makes a certain amount of logical sense, in that a CV without a home port should eventually run out of supplies.

As it is there's not much incentive to get it into action as it'll eventually get taken, making the corresponding port that much harder to take. 

[columbus]

a good offense is a good defense

[Jayhawk]

I was waiting for this thread.   I was thoroughly enjoying Dad's 200 meltdown over the subject; this was followed shortly by 1Boner's announcing of the CV's location over 200.

Personally, I find myself on the fence of the subject, but understand the strategic value of moving CVs out of a hot area.

I just find it funny that out of the hundreds of fields on the map, some were having such a fuss over two CVs.  If you care about them that much, go get em, they aren't untouchable.  Searching for CVs is something I actually enjoy.  How many hours did it take to move them there in the first place?  We can't regulate the MA for the times only you are on, why did no one in your country care about the CV for the hours it was only a short distance from friendly bases?

If only I could have counted the number of times the word "dweeb" was used, it was hilarious.

[whiteman]

nice so the 91st & Jokers are up there with the CJ's. It's becoming pointless for Navy squads in this game. Log on to find we have no CV's, switch countries to find we can't use CV's since they're 12 hours from a fight and someone is keeping them away.

Maybe CV's need to be limited on how far from port they can travel and are set on a auto course back to port if it's captured. That or we just need to go back to small maps to prevent cv's from being hiding away by turds.

[Jayhawk]

For the record:  It's not like it's the 91st policy to hold CVs.  Two of our members happened to be the ones doing it, I know there are members on both sides of this issue. The fact that some felt the need to generalize the entire squad as "dweebs" and "dweebish" and "dweebtards" is just foolish and short sighted. 

91st is a Bomber Squad, plain and simple.

[JunkyII]

a good offense is a good defense

Yea?!?!?! Really?!?!?!?! Who told you that?!?!?!?!

Your either ignorant to what this game is all about......or your just ignorant to the situation we are discussing.

Probably the best Defensive move a person can make in this game...is actually on the offense side of the spectrum.......attacking an enemy field and porking ords, troops, and radar.

PS. the quote is "The best offense is a good defense"

[whiteman]

Personally, I find myself on the fence of the subject, but understand the strategic value of moving CVs out of a hot area.

There's moving out of a hot area then there's moving them 8-10 sectors from the closet fight.

For the record:  It's not like it's the 91st policy to hold CVs.  Two of our members happened to be the ones doing it, I know there are members on both sides of this issue. The fact that some felt the need to generalize the entire squad as "dweebs" and "dweebish" and "dweebtards" is just foolish and short sighted.  

91st is a Bomber Squad, plain and simple.

Like my football coach always said, hang with turds and you start to smell like one yourself. You keep your company and are responsible for members in your squad same as i would be for guys under me doing the same. 1 guy doing it ok, 2 guys doing it then yea prepare for generalizations.

[1Boner]

I was waiting for this thread.   I was thoroughly enjoying Dad's 200 meltdown over the subject; this was followed shortly by 1Boner's announcing of the CV's location over 200.

I just find it funny that out of the hundreds of fields on the map, some were having such a fuss over two CVs.  If you care about them that much, go get em, they aren't untouchable.  Searching for CVs is something I actually enjoy.

1st. Everyone including the nits knew before my "announcment" where they were. And if you guys do it again, I'll announce it again. No regrets.

2nd. You enjoy flying 8+ sectors looking for a CV?? Somehow I find it hard to believe you would do that.
        Aren't untouchable?? 


And out of the "hundereds of fields on the map, YOU guys were making such a "fuss" over 2 Cvs.

[Tilt]

How about just spawning a new CV group after 60 minutes...and the original can still stay hidden.  Then we could have 50 CV groups sailing around, since ports seem to change owners more often than some of those CV-hiders change their panties.   

The cv to port relationship is sort of hard wired into the terrain (the map).

I am basically suggesting a timer is latched in (or reset) each time a port is taken if the CV is not owned by the same country that owns the port after e.g 60 minutes Then it is scuttled.

[ImADot]

91st is a Bomber Squad, plain and simple.

Then why do some in your squad care so much about a CV that they need to hide it and keep it away from people who enjoy fighting from carriers?

[Lusche]

Personally, I find myself on the fence of the subject, but understand the strategic value of moving CVs out of a hot area.

Moving out of a hot area is one thing... but keeping them 20 sectors away behind the continent no matter what the overall strategic situation is another one. Particularly as some squads use numerical superiority at off-peak times for raiding ports with the explicit intention of stealing the CV and hiding it.

The problem is, often on a ocean map you have the majority of CV's completely taken out of the game. And on huge maps, it's very difficult to find them and to get them back into play.

It would be neat if a country could not "own" more CV's than it has ports. Basically once a port has been captured its CV re spawns to its origin port  after say 60 minutes.  We could consider that the CV was "scuttled" and the origin port had made a new fleet.

I think this is a good idea. Could even be longer (like 3 hours or so)... which means it has some merit to keep CV alive for some time, but doesn't keep CV's out of the game indefinitely.  It's also a good incentive to get the port back (thus creating fights!). Maybe you should create a distinct thread for this wish ?

Not we but specifically the CV admirals...  

Well, that reads a bit different than your initial "cant expect any of the higher rank players to do anything about it because they are part of the problem as well"

Being a high ranked player all the time, I do not support the complete removal of CVs from the game. I'm just not online long enough or being able to keep attention for a specific CV long enough.
Another reason I'm currently leaving CVs alone (except emergency actions like turning the ship away from bombers or PT spawns, or prevent someone parking the CV in front of a SB), is that I'm currently hopping through the countries like crazy (several times a day) - And it doesn't look too good if I turn a CV back towards the "enemy" and then switch to them 30 minutes later.