Brewster ENY needs to be lowered...

[JunkyII]

I didn't attack you at all, that's actually much more like your MO on this BBS. In your original post you forgot all the Brewster's weak points and dismissed any Hurricane's good points as if they didn't matter at all. So I called like I saw it; your "analysis" is hilariously biased.

Also I'm sure since you gave such an accurate verbal analysis (ie. zooms a butt load better ) of the Brewster's superiority in zoom-type climb compared to the Hurricane, you can provide some actual numbers from your extensive in-game testing? Right? Or have you done any testing at all?

Again, I won't comment on the Eny values of any plane as anyone's opinion on them is just that, a subjective opinion and nothing more. HTC ultimately makes decisions on the values and I settle at that. I however would like to see a new revised ENY system alltogether which would remove the subjectiveness of the current system, but that's a topic of a new thread.

I fly pretty much the same aircraft every tour. How different planes handle compared to those can be considered a sort of "Test".

[lyric1]

Sounds almost like a Spit XVI whine Perk the Brewster it's to uber it's to fast it can do everything.

[Spikes]

Usually when I see a high brewster I try to run away unless I'm in a 234. I don't like fighting them because if it has more E it's a death sentence for pretty much any plane in-game if the Brew pilot is decent.

[Wmaker]

I fly pretty much the same aircraft every tour. How different planes handle compared to those can be considered a sort of "Test".

<sigh>

I don't quite have words for this...or well I do, but it's best if I won't comment further.

[Messiah]

Have to agree with Wmaker; it's all an opinion until numbers and real analysis starts being put out. And IMO the average AH player will do a lot better in the Hurri 2c than the brewster.

[Messiah]

server hiccup double post

[waystin2]

Like every other plane in this game the Brewster can be a terror when encountered with an E or alt advantage.  Not to mention if you choose to take the wrong plane into the Brewster strengths like low TnB style fighting.  My answer to the Brewster has always been to BnZ it to death, and not turn with it.  If it is higher than me, pull back, get alt on the Brewster, then BnZ it to death.

I say let's see how it's usage, success, K/D ratio, and other game stats that would affect it's ENY play out.  Right now, it's all subjective with no real data to the discussion.

 

Way

[Lusche]

I say let's see how it's usage, success, K/D ratio, and other game stats that would affect it's ENY play out. 

You volunteered? http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/planes.php   

[waystin2]

You volunteered? http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/planes.php  

For current Late War Tour (as of today) the Brewster's K/D ratio (1308/1142) is 1.14.  For comparison purposes the Hurricane IIC has a K/D ratio (1163/997) of 1.17.

For previous Late War Tour the Brewster's KD ratio (3855/3749) was 1.03.  For comparison purposes the Hurricane IIC had a K/D ratio (3608/3511) of 1.03 also.

Very similar usage, kills, deaths, K/D ratio, etc.  Interesting...  If the decision to change the Brewsters ENY was based solely on this information then it should be lowered. 

Talk amongst yourselves.

[SEseph]

You volunteered? http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/planes.php   

So you're saying to perk the Chutes and 5"?   

Chute 261 0 261.00

Ship Gunner 11150 0 11150.00

oh and neg on the Brewster. You'd have too many other planes requiring the same. Just learn to kill it, then it can't kill you. Simple.

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[waystin2]

So you're saying to perk the Chutes and 5"?   

Chute 261 0 261.00

Ship Gunner 11150 0 11150.00

First time I ever looked at those stat pages.  Funny isn't it?

[Boozeman]

For current Late War Tour (as of today) the Brewster's K/D ratio (1308/1142) is 1.14.  For comparison purposes the Hurricane IIC has a K/D ratio (1163/997) of 1.17.

For previous Late War Tour the Brewster's KD ratio (3855/3749) was 1.03.  For comparison purposes the Hurricane IIC had a K/D ratio (3608/3511) of 1.03 also.

Very similar usage, kills, deaths, K/D ratio, etc.  Interesting...  If the decision to change the Brewsters ENY was based solely on this information then it should be lowered. 

Talk amongst yourselves.

Some things to consider about the Hurricane: It can carry ords and has almost more than 3x the firepower. The gap is fine I think.

[waystin2]

Some things to consider about the Hurricane: It can carry ords and has almost more than 3x the firepower. The gap is fine I think.

I agree Boozeman.  It's why I put this little diddy in there: If the decision to change the Brewsters ENY was based solely on this information then it should be lowered. We all know HTC considers way more than just K/D ratio to determine ENY.

[JunkyII]

Some things to consider about the Hurricane: It can carry ords and has almost more than 3x the firepower. The gap is fine I think.

Brew shouldnt have the same just because of the ord and guns for sure. But the hurri does get kills against GVs and the Brew is pretty much all air to air.

Like every other plane in this game the Brewster can be a terror when encountered with an E or alt advantage.  Not to mention if you choose to take the wrong plane into the Brewster strengths like low TnB style fighting.  My answer to the Brewster has always been to BnZ it to death, and not turn with it.  If it is higher than me, pull back, get alt on the Brewster, then BnZ it to death.

I say let's see how it's usage, success, K/D ratio, and other game stats that would affect it's ENY play out.  Right now, it's all subjective with no real data to the discussion.

 

Way

Thats a perfect world. In a furball it can be imposible to stay fast enough to get away from the Brew as it comes at you and if your already low and slow a brew can sneak up with very few problems.

[Boozeman]

Brew shouldnt have the same just because of the ord and guns for sure. But the hurri does get kills against GVs and the Brew is pretty much all air to air.
Thats a perfect world. In a furball it can be imposible to stay fast enough to get away from the Brew as it comes at you and if your already low and slow a brew can sneak up with very few problems.

I counted 208 tank kills for the Hurri 2c in LWA tour 128. That's like 6% of all Hurri 2C kills. The vast majority are A2A kills.  

And if you are low and slow in a furball, it's no suprise that you'll become Brewster-Fodder.It's where it shines best. But an A6M can do the same. So can the I-16. Just because the Brewster does well in a furball does not mean it needs a low ENY