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Re: YOU CANT TOUCH ME!! AHAHAHA!
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2010, 06:12:26 PM »
The V-1 was not a rocket or a missle but was in fact an unmanned aircraft.  It was powered by a pulse jet engine....not a rocket engine.  It was perhaps one of the very first UCAV's with autonomous control. 

Unmanned aircraft are still controlled by pilots, where as the V1 was point and shoot. It is, in essence, a missile.
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2010, 06:38:52 PM »
well when i said people will be flying around in them i meant as a external view all the way to the target and actually controlling it to the target but while your heading there you cant do wild manuvers to escape fighters or you would loose your V1 :headscratch:

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Re: YOU CANT TOUCH ME!! AHAHAHA!
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2010, 06:46:14 PM »
well when i said people will be flying around in them i meant as a external view all the way to the target and actually controlling it to the target but while your heading there you cant do wild manuvers to escape fighters or you would loose your V1 :headscratch:

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Re: YOU CANT TOUCH ME!! AHAHAHA!
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2010, 06:55:57 PM »
The V-1 was not a rocket or a missle but was in fact an unmanned aircraft.  It was powered by a pulse jet engine....not a rocket engine.  It was perhaps one of the very first UCAV's with autonomous control. 

No. In reality it was the first cruise missile. It was pointed in the direction of the target loaded with fuel and launched. No one was steering it or had any control over it what so ever after it was launched. When it ran out of fuel it dropped like a rock and exploded.

well when i said people will be flying around in them i meant as a external view all the way to the target and actually controlling it to the target but while your heading there you cant do wild manuvers to escape fighters or you would loose your V1 :headscratch:

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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2010, 07:01:38 PM »
Now i bet you all wont expect this...how about a german V1? i also think you could get a launch railing at the field so you can actually take off. maybe make this a nice perk plane so not everyone is flying them. i got a picture of it- http://www.dday-overlord.com/img/bdn/elarg/fusee_allemande_v1.jpg

Wow...this thread failed before you created it.  That has to be a record somewhere.


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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2010, 07:03:06 PM »
They even used to shoot em down with Spits. 

And P-51Ds...


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Re: YOU CANT TOUCH ME!! AHAHAHA!
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2010, 07:15:32 PM »
Actually did little strategic damage. Used more for terrorizing the public. For a failed thread, It got a lot of attention.  :old:
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Re: YOU CANT TOUCH ME!! AHAHAHA!
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2010, 07:40:08 PM »
V1, no, however the Japanese had a manned version (similiar) which was used as a suicide attack.  :salute

Besides, the British would flight up to it in Temps and meteors and get close to it and use their wings to throw the thing outta whack. They even used to shoot em down with Spits.  Touched and slapped.  :eek: :salute

No slight intended but to be completely honest here I'm not going to believe that until Ack Ack, Jherne, Simaril, Murdr, or Widewing, verifies this statement. I'm not saying you're incorrect.  I am saying that when they post I know I'm getting facts.   
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Re: YOU CANT TOUCH ME!! AHAHAHA!
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2010, 07:45:34 PM »
Ohka was a rocket, V1 was a pulse Jet, Tempests and Meteors did use there wings to throw V1's off course, but im sure 99% of the time they just shot them down, as it is 100% less risky
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Re: YOU CANT TOUCH ME!! AHAHAHA!
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2010, 08:33:52 PM »
No slight intended but to be completely honest here I'm not going to believe that until Ack Ack, Jherne, Simaril, Murdr, or Widewing, verifies this statement. I'm not saying you're incorrect.  I am saying that when they post I know I'm getting facts.   

It is true, it wasn't the recommended method more like "when all things fail, try this..." but it was done and there are official records detailing the incidents.

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Re: YOU CANT TOUCH ME!! AHAHAHA!
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2010, 08:49:48 PM »
No. In reality it was the first cruise missile. It was pointed in the direction of the target loaded with fuel and launched. No one was steering it or had any control over it what so ever after it was launched. When it ran out of fuel it dropped like a rock and exploded.

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Re: YOU CANT TOUCH ME!! AHAHAHA!
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2010, 08:57:18 PM »
It is true, it wasn't the recommended method more like "when all things fail, try this..." but it was done and there are official records detailing the incidents.

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Re: YOU CANT TOUCH ME!! AHAHAHA!
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2010, 09:06:37 PM »
There's not much data on V-1 kills coming from either shoot-downs or wing tipping...but...







The first recorded knockdowns of V-1s were done by 'tipping', i.e., actual physical contact, but V-1s were gyro-stabilized and it was learned that simply disrupting the airflow over the V-1s wing would cause it to lose gyro-stability and crash.

The Japanese Okha was a completely different design - it was designed as a piloted aircraft from the start, whereas the V-1 wasn't. The 'piloted' Fiesler V-1 variants were test craft, one was flown by Hanna Reitsch. Okhas were rocket powered, although turbojet versions were in development, the V-1 was a pure pulsejet.

The V-1 was essentially a fire-and-forget weapon. Its course was set, an odemeter was used to determine when the engine would shut off and it would fall - so accuracy was never really intended to be great from the start. It was a terror weapon, designed to demoralize the civilian population more than do damage to strategic targets.

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Re: YOU CANT TOUCH ME!! AHAHAHA!
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2010, 09:07:23 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-1_(flying_bomb)

"The V-1 guidance system used a simple autopilot to regulate height and speed. A weighted pendulum system provided fore-and-aft attitude measurement to control pitch, (damped by a gyrocompass, which it also stabilized)."

"An odometer driven by a vane anemometer on the nose determined when target area had been reached, accurately enough for area bombing. Before launch the counter was set to a value that would reach zero upon arrival at the target in the prevailing wind conditions. As the missile flew, the airflow turned the propeller, and every 30 rotations of the propeller counted down one number on the counter. This counter triggered the arming of the warhead after about 60 km (37 mi).[9] When the count reached zero, two detonating bolts were fired. Two spoilers on the elevator were released, the linkage between the elevator and servo was jammed and a guillotine device cut off the control hoses to the rudder servo, setting the rudder in neutral. These actions put the V-1 into a steep dive.[10][11] While this was originally intended to be a power dive, in practice the dive caused the fuel flow to cease, which stopped the engine. The sudden silence after the buzzing alerted listeners of the impending impact. The fuel problem was quickly fixed, and when the last V-1s fell, the majority impacted under power.

With the counter determining how far the missile would fly, it was only necessary to launch the V-1 with the ramp pointing in the approximate direction, and the autopilot controlled the flight."

Flying bomb or cruise missile is correct, at the very least I'd like to see V1 launch sites as destroyable objects on the coast. (Can you say FSO or Special events?)

They have been done before in the flight sim world. cough (freebirds)cough

Compass heading in degrees 0 - 360
Distance in miles to a single decimal point ie 36.5 miles.
Once it reaches the tip over point it dives in. Player goes along for the ride and can see where it impacts.
No setting for altitude, nor evasive maneuvers available. Plus it is fairly fragile to gunfire, although hard to hit.

Now if you could make it so that each AH player, got 1 (one) V1 rocket per day to launch, then you might be onto something.

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Re: YOU CANT TOUCH ME!! AHAHAHA!
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2010, 09:12:04 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-1_(flying_bomb)

"The V-1 guidance system used a simple autopilot to regulate height and speed. A weighted pendulum system provided fore-and-aft attitude measurement to control pitch, (damped by a gyrocompass, which it also stabilized)."

"An odometer driven by a vane anemometer on the nose determined when target area had been reached, accurately enough for area bombing. Before launch the counter was set to a value that would reach zero upon arrival at the target in the prevailing wind conditions. As the missile flew, the airflow turned the propeller, and every 30 rotations of the propeller counted down one number on the counter. This counter triggered the arming of the warhead after about 60 km (37 mi).[9] When the count reached zero, two detonating bolts were fired. Two spoilers on the elevator were released, the linkage between the elevator and servo was jammed and a guillotine device cut off the control hoses to the rudder servo, setting the rudder in neutral. These actions put the V-1 into a steep dive.[10][11] While this was originally intended to be a power dive, in practice the dive caused the fuel flow to cease, which stopped the engine. The sudden silence after the buzzing alerted listeners of the impending impact. The fuel problem was quickly fixed, and when the last V-1s fell, the majority impacted under power.

With the counter determining how far the missile would fly, it was only necessary to launch the V-1 with the ramp pointing in the approximate direction, and the autopilot controlled the flight."

Flying bomb or cruise missile is correct, at the very least I'd like to see V1 launch sites as destroyable objects on the coast. (Can you say FSO or Special events?)

They have been done before in the flight sim world. cough (freebirds)cough

Compass heading in degrees 0 - 360
Distance in miles to a single decimal point ie 36.5 miles.
Once it reaches the tip over point it dives in. Player goes along for the ride and can see where it impacts.
No setting for altitude, nor evasive maneuvers available. Plus it is fairly fragile to gunfire, although hard to hit.

Now if you could make it so that each AH player, got 1 (one) V1 rocket per day to launch, then you might be onto something.
well one a day seems reasonable...but imagine how many would be up all at one time, we would all be flying v1's and nobody would be shooting them down or taking bases in the MA's also i was kind of intending this to be a FSO or a snapshot event. not so much in the MA's