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Offline mbailey

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Re: Savage Arms Rifle's?
« Reply #60 on: November 05, 2010, 01:29:45 PM »
HAHAHAHA , I have seen this many time;s with a buck running across a field  at 300 yard's .    

Shooting at a running deer at 300yards is really irresponsibly hunting IMHO. At 300yards, you are hoping that a bullet hits the animal anywhere. A 300 yard shot into the kill zone of a deer (lets say an area the size of a large dinner plate ) while running, and leaping up and down ( as a deer runs ) is just unsafe and unfair to the animal.

(Flench, this is no reflection on you sir, please dont take it that way )
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« Reply #61 on: November 05, 2010, 01:59:10 PM »
Just the way I grew up hunting . I don't hunt like that any more ....one reason I carried 2 clips as seen on my belt .
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« Reply #62 on: November 05, 2010, 02:02:17 PM »
Just the way I grew up hunting . I don't hunt like that any more ....one reason I carried 2 clips as seen on my belt .

Cool, I just wanted to make sure you didnt think that was aimed at you, It wasnt
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« Reply #63 on: November 05, 2010, 02:14:27 PM »
<S>  mbailey , It was a lot of fun back in the day when we had the land to run dog's but after I grew older and look back on thing's I see how unsafe and unfair it was to the animal's and to us ...
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« Reply #64 on: November 05, 2010, 02:46:45 PM »
Better than defending your country and property with sticks and stones...  :cheers:
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« Reply #65 on: November 05, 2010, 05:32:33 PM »
I'm not going to waste another second arguing about how well people shoot. I've hunted in a couple dozen states, and the same percentage of people who can't shoot well enough for the ranges they try to hunt at exist in every single one of them. It's a lot larger percentage than anyone wants to admit. Anyone who says it isn't is only fooling themselves. There is just as high a percentage of hunters over extending their skills in Wyoming, Colorado, or Idaho as there are here in Tennessee. The Bravo Sierra of "hunters here can shoot, the hunters around you suck" is just more ego stroking B.S., don't waste your time trying to sell that to me, I know better. I've been hunting and shooting for close to 40 years, reloading for nearly as long, and I was a wildlife tech for several years.

tbh I think the hunting environment over here contributes to a difference in hunters. Firearms licenses are required, to get it you have to sit a safety test, have 2 good references, and proper storage. So it takes a significant effort to get into hunting as opposed to just picking up a rifle. Hunting here is pretty much all stalking, no sitting in a blind waiting for a deer to wander past. Ranges are mixed, bush stalking is pretty much <50m, but then you get people hunting chamois and tahr at extreme long ranges in the mountains. Hunting is pretty much open slather in our national parks, we have red deer, fallow deer, whitetail deer, sambar deer, rusa deer, sika deer, tahr, chamois, wapiti (elk), feral pigs, and feral goats: and all of them are listed as pest species.

Then we have the small game, rabbits, hares (aka jack rabbits), possums, stoats, and feral cats - once again all open slather and listed as pests.

A lot of people here get there eye in working on bunnies on farms before moving up to be stuff. Once you can drop a bunny at 100y with a 22... well.. your eye is in ;)

Oh and everything I shot (bar stink goats and possums) ends up in the pot :)  . Our freezer is chocka full of fallow deer, goat, and hare right now.

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Re: Savage Arms Rifle's?
« Reply #66 on: November 05, 2010, 07:55:32 PM »
Captain Virgil Hilts , I will be stand hunting this year so what would you recommend for ammo for my 270 .My  longest shot would be 250 yard's at most from my deer stand . Been using the 100 grain for year's but that was for running deer and it worked fine for that . Got to go to town in the morning and get a few boxes and was just wondering ..The 140 grain ? and in a core lock or silver tip ?

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Both Federal and Winchester have a nice 130 grain load, the silver box Winchester is specifically designed for thinner skinned medium/light game such as white tail deer found in the south east. The blue box Federal performs well also. Those are the factory loads I've used, I'm developing a new load, but it is not finished yet.  I like the 130 grain bullet in the 270 because it fits well in my arsenal. The 100 grain is really a little light, and anything heavier than 130 grains approaches the 168 grain bullet I use in my 30 caliber rifles (except my 30-30). If I wanted to step down to a lighter bullet, and I may, I'd step down to a 25-06. I had a friend who had a 25-06, and it worked quite well on deer with my custom loads.
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Re: Savage Arms Rifle's?
« Reply #67 on: November 06, 2010, 12:33:16 AM »
Oh , Hey Savage ! I did not know that was you . I use to wing with ya some back then . I was GWD then change it to GW327th ...cool .. :rock good to see ya ..
Ok , I will try the 130 grain silver box Winchesters then . Thanks for the help ..
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« Reply #68 on: November 06, 2010, 11:57:27 AM »
Oh , Hey Savage ! I did not know that was you . I use to wing with ya some back then. I was GWD then change it to GW327th ...cool .. :rock good to see ya ..
Ok , I will try the 130 grain silver box Winchesters then . Thanks for the help ..

Died a lot doing that, too, didn't you?  :joystick:

You want the CXP2 Winchester. The ballistic tip premium Winchester is good, but it is expensive. It's one of the reasons I buy very little factory stuff and reload a lot more. I have not tested a great deal with the Federal blue box, but the results from a little testing have been good.
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Re: Savage Arms Rifle's?
« Reply #69 on: November 06, 2010, 12:48:12 PM »
Just called the guy I get my ammo from and he said all he had  in a 270  was the GRXP3 at 140 grain and there $45.00 a box . What about these ?
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« Reply #70 on: November 06, 2010, 01:04:55 PM »
George i dont know how fast you need your ammo but i go thru this place

http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.270_Winchester?sort=3&group=0



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Re: Savage Arms Rifle's?
« Reply #71 on: November 06, 2010, 01:49:40 PM »
Just called the guy I get my ammo from and he said all he had  in a 270  was the GRXP3 at 140 grain and there $45.00 a box . What about these ?

Not for deer, and that's way too high. Those are for thick skinned large game with heavy bones, they'll go right through a deer and never even think about expanding enough. They'd be good for Elk or Moose though. I only gave $20 or so a box for my Winchester, and less than $15 a box for the Federal blue box at WalMart. Hell, you can get Winchester Supreme ballistic tip with nickel plated cases for $35 a box at WalMart.
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Re: Savage Arms Rifle's?
« Reply #72 on: November 06, 2010, 01:59:27 PM »
I see .The only place around here is the pawn shop and walmart . I have two weeks so I will check out the site Doug posted and see what they have .
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« Reply #73 on: November 06, 2010, 03:04:19 PM »
I see .The only place around here is the pawn shop and walmart . I have two weeks so I will check out the site Doug posted and see what they have .
Thanks guy's ... :aok

I just saw the blue box Federal at the local WalMart. The Winchester in the silver box is not as readily available, for whatever reason, WalMart carries the blue box Federal, and then either white box Winchester (it's crap) or the black box Winchester Supreme (over priced for your needs).
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Re: Savage Arms Rifle's?
« Reply #74 on: November 07, 2010, 02:51:49 AM »
hey vulcan how are yoyu mate. it's good to see you . i.m not here that often and i dont nedd some dum yanks telling me how to shoot straight. i thought i would just shoot by. god bless you mate