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Offline kilo2

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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #75 on: November 16, 2010, 05:33:52 PM »
  P-47 and Mosquito MkVI. End of story. And K4s ARE a cartoon ride. Been that way ever since
they toned down the FM a couple years back. Why do you think they're so popular now?
They're the La7 for guys that don't want to be caught in one of those. :)
  Granted some GREAT pilots fly them, but in the vast majority of cases, they're flown
by guys who like the fact they can dance on heads with 'em all day using that 4.0 ROC or
better that -no- other plane can match.

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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #76 on: November 16, 2010, 05:36:22 PM »
Hope that it isn't a Muppet flying the K4 and you are ok.

no squad 'l33tism' chest beating here....

There are plenty of good K4 sticks who are non-muppets. Anyone remember Creton or Pervert?
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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #77 on: November 16, 2010, 05:41:24 PM »
a bit off topic, but i'm gonna ask ya anyway.

 in a co-alt merge, p-38, p-39, or p-40 vs the k-4....how the hell do we beat that dam thing?

I can send you some films  :devil


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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #78 on: November 16, 2010, 05:42:51 PM »
I can send you some films  :devil


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if you don't mind, that would be helpful, and appreciated sir.

 it's actually harder for me to beat them, than spits........
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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #79 on: November 16, 2010, 05:52:11 PM »
no squad 'l33tism' chest beating here....

There are plenty of good K4 sticks who are non-muppets. Anyone remember Creton or Pervert?


I was obviously just shamelessly promoting.  :D

There are plenty of good k4 pilots, including yourself. (g14, same thing)

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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #80 on: November 16, 2010, 05:53:46 PM »
no squad 'l33tism' chest beating here....

There are plenty of good K4 sticks who are non-muppets. Anyone remember Creton or Pervert?


yes there are and we call them "Junior Muppets" or "Muppets in training"

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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #81 on: November 16, 2010, 05:53:51 PM »
K-4 got boring for me, 1 shot killing things just wasnt as fun as it was when I started to learn the tater, IMHO ShVAK cannons are harder to hit with then the Mk-108
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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #82 on: November 16, 2010, 05:55:30 PM »
I was obviously just shamelessly promoting.  :D

There are plenty of good k4 pilots, including yourself. (g14, same thing)

can't blame a guy for the shameless promotions.....'specially seeing as i'm as guilty as hell of doing that for the ava........

i fought the 109f's, and one of tghe g versions, vs my p-40e.....i always seemed to do better against the g...the f seemed to tear me up in short order....
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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2010, 05:58:29 PM »
Lol....

I was fighting Pawz in his 38 in my K4.  We start slowing down in a horizontal scissors... I yet again forget about the slats... SLINK!... next thing I know I am upside down, Pawz has all the advantage and I am soon in the silk.  Flying a K4 through all speed ranges is pretty darn challenging.  

Late edit:  Try nearly 6k ROC.  Come of the rw, accelerate to 250, pull the leading edge of the wing to the horizon and hold on...magnificent. 
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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #84 on: November 16, 2010, 06:00:01 PM »
I'm sorry for being obtuse, but the point is, there are many players that are less skilled than you in this game that when put in the Spit16, would hand you your bellybutton much more often then you would hand them theirs.

Really?  I don't think so, just looking at my stats I'm 146 kills vs. 59 deaths (using last 6 tours) against the Spitfire Mk XVI which kind of puts a monkey wrench into the idea that even a less than average pilot in a Spitfire Mk XVI would hand me my bellybutton back more often than naught.  Granted, not all the fights were 1v1 DA type set up fights but if your theory was correct the differences between my kills of the Spitfire Mk XVI and deaths still wouldn't be so great.  

However, if it was the Spitfire Mk IX or the VIII then the less than average or average pilot would have a better chance against me in a P-38J but even against those I still have a better kill vs. death average.  The only Spitfires that give me trouble are the ones flown by those of comparable skill and those fights usually boil down to who made the mistake first.

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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #85 on: November 16, 2010, 06:00:42 PM »
  P-47 and Mosquito MkVI. End of story. And K4s ARE a cartoon ride. Been that way ever since
they toned down the FM a couple years back. Why do you think they're so popular now?
They're the La7 for guys that don't want to be caught in one of those. :)
  Granted some GREAT pilots fly them, but in the vast majority of cases, they're flown
by guys who like the fact they can dance on heads with 'em all day using that 4.0 ROC or
better that -no- other plane can match.

Cute post, but the fact remains.  Until more players start dominating in the K4, what you describe is moot point.  If you are able to up a K4 and land more than 3 kills before you realize you wasted all 65 of your taters, I would be very surprised.

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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #86 on: November 16, 2010, 06:01:30 PM »

the ones flown by those of comparable skill and those fights usually boil down to who made the mistake first.

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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #87 on: November 16, 2010, 06:05:52 PM »
XIV = 14

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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #88 on: November 16, 2010, 06:06:30 PM »
Really?  I don't think so, just looking at my stats I'm 146 kills vs. 59 deaths (using last 6 tours) against the Spitfire Mk XIV which kind of puts a monkey wrench into the idea that even a less than average pilot in a Spitfire Mk XIV would hand me my bellybutton back more often than naught.  Granted, not all the fights were 1v1 DA type set up fights but if your theory was correct the differences between my kills of the Spitfire Mk XVI and deaths still wouldn't be so great.  

However, if it was the Spitfire Mk IX or the VIII then the less than average or average pilot would have a better chance against me in a P-38J but even against those I still have a better kill vs. death average.  The only Spitfires that give me trouble are the ones flown by those of comparable skill and those fights usually boil down to who made the mistake first.

ack-ack

Moot point.  

Ack-ack, on average, you are fighting the average player in the Main arena in any given fight.  This is basic statistics.  I could care less about how you fare against the average player.  Vets should hand the average player his bellybutton in any plane matchup.  Why?  Because the average player sucks, due to lack of experience and quality equipment.  What I'm talking about is the player that is 'pretty good', maybe 85-90th percentile.  You are somewhere in the high 90's percentile wise.  Put the player who is in the 80-90th percentile in a SpitVI, and he will hand you are bellybutton more times than not, this is very clear.  It's not a knock on you, it's just the reality that regardless how good you fly your p38, it has limitations when matched against a dweeb ride like a spit16.

p.s. We are talking about the SpitXVI right? You keep typing SpitXIV which is a different aircraft.
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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #89 on: November 16, 2010, 06:10:59 PM »
p.s. We are talking about the SpitVI right? You keep typing SpitIV which is a different aircraft.

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