Author Topic: Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers  (Read 2697 times)

Offline DREDIOCK

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Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers
« on: November 18, 2010, 10:12:04 AM »

Its reached the point of ridiculousness.
Example. Last night I engage a P47M with my 109F. He has alt and E advantage. I make one turn on him and end up on his 6. Now keep in mind because I had to make the turn and he more or less flew straight. He still had a significant E advantage. So what does he do?
Rather then climb up and away from me. He dives to his ack.

This is getting to be the most common mode of fighting Im seeing lately. People wander just far away enough from the feild to get you to try and fight them. then instead of actually,,you know. FIGHTING. Which is what I always thought this game was SUPPOSED to be about. They run and try to drag you into their ack. As often as not its not even because they got themselves in a bad position. But rather their entire fight strategy.

I can understand when your base is being horded. But I see this with relatively even numbers from a 1V1 co alt co E state to larger masses.
I mean. C'mon already.

So I have a suggestion. so long as a plane is gear down near his field. friendly auto ack will not harm him. As soon as a plane goes gear up. All auto ack fire. including friendly becomes live and has the potential to kill anyone it hits from either side.
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Re: Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2010, 10:21:39 AM »
I thought it already was this way - I can recall several times when I've had my plane damaged by friendly autoack.
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Re: Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2010, 10:22:28 AM »
or, just fly away and find another fight.
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Re: Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2010, 10:24:50 AM »
Friendly ack can damage you IIRC.
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Re: Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2010, 10:29:54 AM »
You were probably fighting a guy who just recently learned there is a scoring system in AH.  Or, maybe the guy had his first two pelts and just wanted to land em'.  Who knows.  I also think it is a weak move, but there are many in here why try to fly as close as the might have, had the flown a WWII plane.  So, any strategy to improve their own survivability is valid.  Its a potato potatoe discussion....
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Re: Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2010, 10:58:59 AM »
The same thing happened to me 3 or 4 times yesterday evening.  It kinda sucks when they turn back on your six as soon as you break.  It really is lame when the two planes involved are evenly matched. I don't mind dying, and score means nothing to me, but it does get a little aggravating to lose a fight because of the server and not the other player.

Sometimes ill just auger and re up at another field.
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Re: Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2010, 11:20:51 AM »

So I have a suggestion. so long as a plane is gear down near his field. friendly auto ack will not harm him. As soon as a plane goes gear up. All auto ack fire. including friendly becomes live and has the potential to kill anyone it hits from either side.


 Auto takeoff would be a real MFer!   :old:

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Re: Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2010, 11:32:52 AM »
The same thing happened to me 3 or 4 times yesterday evening.  It kinda sucks when they turn back on your six as soon as you break.  It really is lame when the two planes involved are evenly matched. I don't mind dying, and score means nothing to me, but it does get a little aggravating to lose a fight because of the server and not the other player.

Sometimes ill just auger and re up at another field.

Exactly.

and its getting kinda hard to "find another fight" when most everyone you come across anymore does the same thing
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Re: Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2010, 11:35:21 AM »
It's funny, they wanna be a top stick and flying timid makes you worse of a stick, (running, running to ack, runnin to friendlies) people tick me off when they do this, now I have to fly speedy planes to keep with them. :furious
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Re: Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2010, 11:38:43 AM »

 Auto takeoff would be a real MFer!   :old:


Good point. Leave auto takeoff mode be the same as gear down then and reduce the range that feild ack starts firing.

Another option would be for a plane upping form a field  be immune to auto ack for 45 seconds after takeoff or when gear are down. that should give everyone a chance to get out of ack range even while AFK

Note Im only suggesting the auto ack. Not the manned guns. At least this way if a manned gun shoots you down then at least someone that deserves credit for the kill gets it.



Edit. Then again if your climbing out in autotakoff mode. Odds are there arent many enemy in the area and feild ack isnt firing anyway.
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Re: Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2010, 11:47:27 AM »
Actually self poilicing would be best policy! To help enforce self policing the icon options should allow you to see EXACTLY who the enemy con is! With this knowledge most peeps who have played awhile would prefer to NOT have the shame and stay out of the ack unless landing! Noobs will run to ack!  noob is as noob does!

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Re: Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2010, 11:47:33 AM »
All auto ack fire. including friendly becomes live and has the potential to kill anyone it hits from either side.

As others pointed out: It's already that way. If you get hit by friendly auto & puffy ack, you get damage... or worse. I have been actually shot down by "friendly" puffy ack and been heavily damaged by friendly auto ack. It just doesn't aim for you, but it doesn't care if you get in the way.
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Re: Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2010, 11:48:26 AM »
yup, probably one of the worst features in the game imo. . .

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Re: Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2010, 11:53:05 AM »
Ive lost many parts from friendly CV ack while im taking off
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Re: Suggestion to deal with the ack huggers
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2010, 11:54:47 AM »
Friendly ack can damage you IIRC.

puffy only and its only when the auto ack is firing at the enemy in front of you
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