How F3 can improve shooting

[Tyrannis]

And thats what makes you an oxygen thief! Lol

lol. "oxygen thief". so clever.

[SunBat]

I wouldn't think there is enough F3 following to affect the bottom line! In fact I'm quite sure about this!

I have been wrong before though        Marriage and all


JUGgler

Many of the old players from H2H insist on having it.  I know because I used to host the rooms. I would have F3 off most of the time and I got a lot of complaints.  It only takes seven people to increase revenue by $100 a month.

As for the argument that the other, long term players that pay and don’t like it have money just as green, the answer to that is the longer you have been here the less they have to worry about losing your green money over petty crap.  

[Changeup]

I wouldn't think there is enough F3 following to affect the bottom line! In fact I'm quite sure about this!


JUGgler

Yours and Dedalos' logic is impeccible.  Any other argument is financial or emotional.  However, HTC will lose quite a few DA guys if it goes away because 90% use F3.  The good guys in there.....TA57x, Spacy, MacDaddy, Rowdy and others will tell you the truth about using it.  They are great guys but the clearly understand the advantages and it wouldn't be the same game to them if it were removed.  Just saying....

[Dead Man Flying]

Not that I care for DA lake, but I can imagine, the F3 view can change dynamics of the fight quite a lot.

Only insofar as it increases SA, but most of the complaints I've seen here refer to aim.  If you were to disable guns in F3 mode, that would have no effect on the SA component.

Most of the complaints about the use of F3 mode in the MA center on less than godly planes like the Sturmovik, but I don't buy that F3 mode turns Sturmies into unkillable snapshot machines.  I suspect that guys like ghi would probably still continue to be successful in them with or without F3.  His SA might take a hit, but he's obviously quite good at suckering people into making bad passes.

[kilo2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4QoOdDLfCo

[Tyrannis]

Yours and Dedalos' logic is impeccible.  Any other argument is financial or emotional.  However, HTC will lose quite a few DA guys if it goes away because 90% use F3.  The good guys in there.....TA57x, Spacy, MacDaddy, Rowdy and others will tell you the truth about using it.  They are great guys but the clearly understand the advantages and it wouldn't be the same game to them if it were removed.  Just saying....

the actual advantages in flying f3 mode is slim actually. ive tryed it many times (i admit) the only time ive ever seen when its good to use is when diving on someone or deflection shots.  its horrible to use in a turn/vertical fight(atleast for me) because for some reason i'll think im goin in the vertical when really my planes turning in the horrizontal, and i ddint realise it because of my point of view. and actually f3 mode can be a hinderance  when trying to line up a shot on a running plane. some planes (like the p47) are so fat they can block your sight when in f3 mode.

like i said b4 only time i truly use f3 mode anymore is when flying the p47D-11. and thats only because of its horrible cockpit design.(how the aiming is too the side)

[SunBat]

Yours and Dedalos' logic is impeccible.  Any other argument is financial or emotional.  However, HTC will lose quite a few DA guys if it goes away because 90% use F3.  The good guys in there.....TA57x, Spacy, MacDaddy, Rowdy and others will tell you the truth about using it.  They are great guys but the clearly understand the advantages and it wouldn't be the same game to them if it were removed.  Just saying....

If you people are not going to listen to me listen to Changeup. 

[2bighorn]

Many of the old players from H2H insist on having it.  I know because I used to host the rooms. I would have F3 off most of the time and I got a lot of complaints.  It only takes seven people to increase revenue by $100 a month.

As for the argument that the other, long term players that pay and don’t like it have money just as green, the answer to that is the longer you have been here the less they have to worry about losing your green money over petty crap.  

If they're so profitable, don't they deserve their own 'easy mode' arena?

[JOACH1M]

the actual advantages in flying f3 mode is slim actually. ive tryed it many times (i admit) the only time ive ever seen when its good to use is when diving on someone or deflection shots.  its horrible to use in a turn/vertical fight(atleast for me) because for some reason i'll think im goin in the vertical when really my planes turning in the horrizontal, and i ddint realise it because of my point of view. and actually f3 mode can be a hinderance  when trying to line up a shot on a running plane. some planes (like the p47) are so fat they can block your sight when in f3 mode.

like i said b4 only time i truly use f3 mode anymore is when flying the p47D-11. and thats only because of its horrible cockpit design.(how the aiming is too the side)

I can go to the DA right now and land 10 killes with ease using F3, perfect timed and placed shots.

[The Fugitive]

I don't have a problem with F3. It does a great job simulating the extra "eyes" you'd have on the planes that have it enabled. I just think you shouldn't be able to shoot from that view. Pretend a waste gunner spots a con low 11 o'clock. He would call it out and the ball would go after it.

F3 is for visuals not for gunning.

[2bighorn]

Only insofar as it increases SA, but most of the complaints I've seen here refer to aim.  If you were to disable guns in F3 mode, that would have no effect on the SA component.

Most of the complaints about the use of F3 mode in the MA center on less than godly planes like the Sturmovik, but I don't buy that F3 mode turns Sturmies into unkillable snapshot machines.  I suspect that guys like ghi would probably still continue to be successful in them with or without F3.  His SA might take a hit, but he's obviously quite good at suckering people into making bad passes.

I think MA and rides with F3 enabled are fine as it is. No problem with that.

[Tyrannis]

I can go to the DA right now and land 10 killes with ease using F3, perfect timed and placed shots.

shut up jo, i dont care. 

[SunBat]

If they're so profitable, don't they deserve their own 'easy mode' arena?

Yes, that's why they have one. 

[SunBat]

I can go to the DA right now and land 10 killes with ease using F3, perfect timed and placed shots.

Please post the films of these killes you speak of. 

[JOACH1M]

shut up jo, i dont care. 

Stating a point, f3 is to big of an advantage for any arena.