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Offline Reschke

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"Craft Beer" in the USA generally sucks.
« on: February 18, 2011, 09:37:05 AM »
A squaddie on our squadron boards got me to thinking about this so here is my mini rant.

I have had it with people trying to force these "high gravity" and "craft brews" on me. I can't stand 99% of the ones I have tasted and I like to think that I have tried beer in its various forms and flavors just to make an informed opinion. In these alleged good beers I find that all these micro-brewers and craft breweries tend to load up a beverage with so much hops that you can't get the rest of the flavors out of a beer that you should. Beer should have a nice refreshing, cooling, flavorful taste in your mouth and not make you feel like you just drank liquid horse crap; like 99% of the North American.....no USA brewers which overload beer with hops. They need to look at what makes the beers in Europe and many Canadian brews taste good...less hops and preservatives and greater flavors.

With that said I have found a couple that I can drink and like even though I still think they are loaded with more hops than they should have...at least compared to the similar style beverages I have had from Europe.

Brother Thelonious by North Coast Brewery, Dogfish Head Midas Touch, Leinenkugels Summer Shandy...heck just about anything that Leinenkugels brews and lastly the only Sam Adams I can tolerate Noble Pils.
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Re: "Craft Beer" in the USA generally sucks.
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2011, 09:44:45 AM »
So basically you like to drink water.  I get it, but others prefer to have their palate tempted by fuller flavors.  It's really a matter of preference.

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Re: "Craft Beer" in the USA generally sucks.
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2011, 09:47:41 AM »
you may have a point when it comes to something besides a dark beer...but then i don't generally drink anything besides a bock or ale.
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Re: "Craft Beer" in the USA generally sucks.
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011, 09:57:49 AM »
So basically you like to drink water.  I get it, but others prefer to have their palate tempted by fuller flavors.  It's really a matter of preference.

Nope Dragon I just can't stand the crap that breweries in general in the USA try to pawn off on consumers as beer. Most times in the case of Buttweiser and others like them its nothing more than butt taste in a bottle/can.

As I mentioned above you can find decent good quality beers with good flavors but you honestly have to settle more than than not for something that just sucks.
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Re: "Craft Beer" in the USA generally sucks.
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 10:00:04 AM »
So name these great European and Canadian beers.
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Re: "Craft Beer" in the USA generally sucks.
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011, 10:04:47 AM »
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Re: "Craft Beer" in the USA generally sucks.
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011, 10:11:54 AM »
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Re: "Craft Beer" in the USA generally sucks.
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011, 10:14:48 AM »

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Re: "Craft Beer" in the USA generally sucks.
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2011, 10:20:55 AM »
Nope Dragon I just can't stand the crap that breweries in general in the USA try to pawn off on consumers as beer. Most times in the case of Buttweiser and others like them its nothing more than butt taste in a bottle/can.

As I mentioned above you can find decent good quality beers with good flavors but you honestly have to settle more than than not for something that just sucks.
They brew what they brew because people drink it. Just because your taste buds dont consider it beer, doesnt mean that others don't. No brewery expects everyone to enjoy their product.

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Re: "Craft Beer" in the USA generally sucks.
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2011, 10:25:48 AM »
People around here don't drink beer for it's taste.  That's why they go with the $13.95/case Natty Light lo
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Re: "Craft Beer" in the USA generally sucks.
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2011, 10:26:52 AM »
Was down in San Diego last spring and had the opportunity to have dinner at the Stone Brewing Co. in Escondido, it has a very wide selection of delicious brews, and the food is pretty good as well.  Am heading there again in a couple months.  :cheers:

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Re: "Craft Beer" in the USA generally sucks.
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2011, 10:29:42 AM »
So name these great European and Canadian beers.

Well lets see from Germany you get a bunch....

Spaten, The original Lowenbrau...not the crap that gets sent outside of Germany, Eibauer, Braustolz, Bischoff, Warsteiner....that you get in Germany (its ok here but not the same as there), Franziskaner Weissbier, Charly Bräu, Scherdel, Hornecker, Wildbrau, Klosterhof, Hacker-Pschorr; I could go on and on but I think you get the picture.

Canadian brewers....still a pretty good list...

Banff, Big Rock, Roughneck, Alexander Keith's, Highlander Brew, Bushwakker, Yukon Brewing.

Anyone that ever tries to get you to drink this crap from Canada from Dead Frog Breweries needs a solid beat down. Its just as bad, of not worse than most of the crap "craft brews" here in the states.
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Re: "Craft Beer" in the USA generally sucks.
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2011, 10:46:49 AM »
Alexander Keith's, hehe.

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Drink the beer you like.  But to make a statement that Craft Beer sucks in the USA is a ridiculously narrow-minded statement.
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Re: "Craft Beer" in the USA generally sucks.
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2011, 10:52:32 AM »
Alexander Keith's, hehe.

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Drink the beer you like.  But to make a statement that Craft Beer sucks in the USA is a ridiculously narrow-minded statement.

this was the point I was trying to make.  :aok

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Re: "Craft Beer" in the USA generally sucks.
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2011, 11:43:27 AM »
Alexander Keith's, hehe.

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Drink the beer you like.  But to make a statement that Craft Beer sucks in the USA is a ridiculously narrow-minded statement.

The vast majority of people in the US and the big brewers in the US wouldn't know a good beer even if someone gave it to them with a sign saying "This is good beer!".

As for my tastes...yep I drink crap beer...when its free and I talk about how crappy it is then too. Alexander Keith's is not something that you can get easily here in the US...but it might be and then I bet it gets lowered to crap mass produced status for us south of the border people.

And while my statement might be considered narrow minded by you Bug its dead on 100% true!
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