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Offline PJ_Godzilla

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Re: the next a/c for Asces High is ...
« Reply #105 on: March 04, 2011, 12:28:27 PM »
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Re: the next a/c for Asces High is ...
« Reply #106 on: March 04, 2011, 01:28:11 PM »
Unfortunately, the P38 will feast on the Me410 any day of the week. It simply won't keep up with it. The only other non-American twin engine fighter that can compete with the P38 in game is the Mosquito Mk6.
That was a reply to a Beaufighter reply.

cue 'unfortunate' reference to "inferior" 190/152/109 TnB attributes.  "Unfortunately the 152 loses previous 190s' speed and crispness for still not quite competitive turn rate and stability". Etc
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Re: the next a/c for Asces High is ...
« Reply #107 on: March 04, 2011, 01:37:57 PM »
That was a reply to a Beaufighter reply.

cue 'unfortunate' reference to "inferior" 190/152/109 TnB attributes.  "Unfortunately the 152 loses previous 190s' speed and crispness for still not quite competitive turn rate and stability". Etc

My apologies, I did indeed read that wrong. Was thinking he was making a comment about the Me410 in response to the P38. I am all for the Beaufighter and Me410, however. :old:
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Re: the next a/c for Asces High is ...
« Reply #108 on: March 04, 2011, 01:48:26 PM »
I don't mean to drum up the 410, but a 110 with better powerloading and MK103 guns would be something else.
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Re: the next a/c for Asces High is ...
« Reply #109 on: March 04, 2011, 05:56:40 PM »
As good as those Mk103s would be, I would find myself taking the 2x20mm, 4x20mm, 6x20mm, or 6x20mm with 2x20mm gondola (8x total) more.

To me that would be bloody marvelous!

Oh, yeah, I'd take 103s when bomber hunting, though  :uhoh

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Re: the next a/c for Asces High is ...
« Reply #110 on: March 04, 2011, 06:00:16 PM »
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Re: the next a/c for Asces High is ...
« Reply #111 on: March 04, 2011, 08:53:11 PM »
Seafire Mk L III

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Re: the next a/c for Asces High is ...
« Reply #112 on: March 04, 2011, 09:10:08 PM »
+1 for the Seafire L III.

Though a Ki-43 and Pe-2 are needed first, methinks.
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Re: the next a/c for Asces High is ...
« Reply #113 on: March 05, 2011, 12:26:42 AM »
Unfortunately, the P38 will feast on the Me410 any day of the week. It simply won't keep up with it. The only other non-American twin engine fighter that can compete with the P38 in game is the Mosquito Mk6.

By documented performance ratings that's not that clear...from what I read....& I might be able to fly the Me410 a little better than a 38. It always comes down to the pilot, until you get 2 ubber aces, equally ranked, going at it. My experience is I'm usually terribly out flown or I kill someone fairly easy, either because they lack experience, or someone else set them up for me. Rare occasions are when the fight lasts a good while. I think most of us are in the middle, as far as true flying skill goes.  :old:
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Re: the next a/c for Asces High is ...
« Reply #114 on: March 05, 2011, 01:18:27 AM »
In a nutshell, the main things (to name a few that get it done) that keep the P-38 out of other twins' reach are counter-rotating engines and fowler flaps, good aerodynamics (it feels really clean to me at least) and boosted ailerons.  Those put together mean that the 38 can far outperform its competition deep inside departure envelope, and also be in a class of its own in roll rate at high speed and probably in terms of high speed retention. 

The P-38's 4x50 and 20mm all stuck together at the tip of the nose are very lethal, but in a close fight they're probably nothing like 410's better packages (obviously excluding awkward heavyweight packages like BK5) which don't even need that fraction of a second connection to guarantee a fighter kill - 4 20mm or 2 30mm probably guarantee a kill on any kind of snapshot.  So the 410's handling is going to be critical.  If it's as flaky as the Mossie used to be, the 38 is really gonna have a field day with it and the only exception will be those rare times a 410 gets a solution.

Look at the chart on this post: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,261828.msg3342438.html#msg3342438
The P-38 is already ~30mph faster at sea level with its curve growing positive and never looking back from there.  No competition in that respect.  The 410 better handle well enough for the defensive position it'll most likely/often be in, otherwise even those 50cal-like MK 103 cannons won't save it.
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Re: the next a/c for Asces High is ...
« Reply #115 on: March 05, 2011, 07:43:38 AM »


 next plane is
















































   A-26  :x  :bolt:



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Re: the next a/c for Asces High is ...
« Reply #116 on: March 05, 2011, 08:46:18 AM »
A-26 +1
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Re: the next a/c for Asces High is ...
« Reply #117 on: March 05, 2011, 08:54:54 AM »
M26  

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Help me out with the P61.Was that the late war night fighterI think it was called the Black Widow??Did you mean P63,which I would love to see in the game,as it pretty much matched  the P51,at alt.The 111,410,Ki43 and 100,the Jack,And the Mig3 are amongst the the planes I'd like to see.

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Re: the next a/c for Asces High is ...
« Reply #118 on: March 05, 2011, 08:57:12 AM »
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Re: the next a/c for Asces High is ...
« Reply #119 on: March 05, 2011, 12:29:03 PM »
A-26