I really wish they would go to a Air Warrior type HO shot!

[TequilaChaser]

the only bad thing about fighting someone who only goes for a headonshot, is that if you maneuver and avoid they extend to 3k, 4k, 5k and rinse and repeat.if you get around on them you chase them forever, unless you are lucky enough to get with in guns range and hit them to rattle their cage, then it is easy from there on.....

so most times you get bored, turn your tail to them and try to sucker them in and do a barrel roll defense or something another...... but most times you can't do this because they will lay in wait until you are in another fight or they will scream for 4 or 5 others to come and help them Maim you......

that is the only downfall of the HO...... it isn't because one can not defeat or deny a person trying to HO...

just my personal opinion - your opinion is your's 

[Belial]

It takes two to HO.
It takes bad SA/maneuvering to be HO'd.  Or just plain bad luck - some sorties just aren't meant to be.

This^^^ It' s really not not a big deal unless you are sober when it happens

[Swoops]

we need a Pimp to slap the HO whiners.....

[moot]

the only bad thing about fighting someone who only goes for a headonshot, is that if you maneuver and avoid they extend to 3k, 4k, 5k and rinse and repeat
so most times you get bored, turn your tail to them and try to sucker them in and do a barrel roll defense or something another......

^ What I was gonna say ^  The HO & extend type usually will bite if you do a really lazy (iow also energy-cheap) evasive ahead of time.  If they bend into you, you've made them pay some E and commit a little.  Myself I usually don't exploit this right away but just keep playing stoopid... boil the frog.

but most times you can't do this because they will lay in wait until you are in another fight or they will scream for 4 or 5 others to come and help them Maim you......

In that case you're screwed anyway    Not much you can do but make the most of it.

[Getback]

What and take away my other dimension, the first being picking.

[guncrasher]

you realize if you get rid of the ho shot,

 the front 1/4 shot goes with it also.

the dive and pull up and shoot in face but it's not a ho shot, is gone too.

semp

[IronDog]

There was nothing in AW that is better than Aces High.
Thanks for all the replies.I figured there would be mostly negative opinions to my thoughts,FlS, Air Warrior had many fine qualities,and I wasn't trying to say in any way that AW was better.That being said,I can guarantee that a lot of my old AW friends will back me up on the fact that AW was a great sim,and the friendships,and spirit that were made in AW carried over to AH,and made it the great sim it is.One of my squad mates gave me a tip on Ho'ing that has greatly improved my Ho'ing success.I'm not overly exited that I improved on a skill I don't think should be in the game,but that is what one has to do to survive these days.Learning to avoid the HO was one of the first things I picked up when making the AW-AH transition.The collision modeling bothers me way more than the HO issue.Last night a guy flew right under me,and he got a collision with me!Shortly I got the kill,because I had landed some lead in his face!That's my story on both issues.Everyone has their own opinions,and I respect that.
The Dawg

[Hawk55]

Of course in most cases once they can't HO you any more they run to friends or ack because it's all they know.

Spot on Fugi.   

[LLogann]

Even if it were a good wish......  Making a comparison to Air Warriors is probably the last nail in any coffin.  

Go play Air Warriors if you like it better.....................  Oh, oh wait....................  That's right, it's gone.  

So let's make AH more like it?  


Good question...........

btw: how did AW handle HO shots?

[hotard]

Please, fell free to HO me anytime. 9 times out of 10 I'm either going to beat you at it, or use your predetermined flight path against you.

[RTHolmes]

I wouldnt want to change anything in respect of HO shots. I very much enjoyed sawing the wing off HOtard's XVI the other day with my 8x.303s in a joust, then flying on to the next fight with no damage. It made me smile.

the collision model can be hard to get your head around (2 players is actually modelled as 4 planes), but trust me the model we have in AH is the fairest way of doing it.



btw: how did AW handle HO shots?



edit: perfect timing for my post http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvcaxumeiKc

[The Fugitive]

AW had no collisions and all but 3% of the HO shots where thrown out. So if you fired 100 rounds in your HO attempt only 3 of them counted. - think it was 3%, it was a long time ago.

[bangsbox]

im a HO master; due to flying mossy,p39and 190a8 all the time in LW ma, these plane loose advantage fast so killing people that are trying to avoid HO has become an art im rather good at now. not to say that i wont continue the fight after first ho, but i find my self in these plane just looking to get a second ho before better faster plane get on my 6. I feel people should not cry over Ho-tards they usually fly planes with big heavy weapons loads and will not be able to win a dogfight in anyother fashion other than HO or boom and zoom.

[dev1ant]

I liked the way AW handled Head-On's.  As simple as it was, the positive side effect to it was you actually had to fight to get kills.

[Ack-Ack]

You could get in a HO shot in AW with a P38 or Skeeter now and then,but few even messed with the HO.The collision model was also right on,as I have witnessed collisions that defy explanation.Just turn them off!

The Dawg

AW didn't model collisions.

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