Prime Time and Not

[Chalenge]

I wish this big change would get extinguished. The problem I have with it is the change always occurs in the middle of my flying time and forces me to either delay my sortie launch or cut it short one or the other.

Instead of what we have how about cutting down to one server? So if we are in Orange we know the server wont reset and we can fly as long as we like? Closing both servers is cramping my style.

[Lusche]

Instead of what we have how about cutting down to one server? So if we are in Orange we know the server wont reset and we can fly as long as we like? Closing both servers is cramping my style.

That would be defeating most of the purpose. You would have to set up both arenas so that one has always a small map in it - and of course you would have to shut the large map arena down. Which would be the same we have now.
It's even more problematic in the evening when offhours arena switches to prime time. The only way to make such a switch work is by booting the players, as annoying as that is. If you do not, you will have the very same situation we had before:
One locked arena with ~200 players and one open with ~20.

[Chalenge]

Defeating most of the purpose is exactly what I have in mind. I do not like the change to this ever changing host and I am not alone.

Late war is sick during prime time. Of course you probably havent noticed but to be completely honest early war and mid war are actually more representative of the game HTC designed in my opinion. Play a month in EW and MW and then go into LW and it will smack you in the face like a jumping carp! I dont know how to fix it but I do know this host jumping thing is not an ideal solution.

[Lusche]

Late war is sick during prime time. Of course you probably havent noticed but to be completely honest early war and mid war are actually more representative of the game HTC designed in my opinion. Play a month in EW and MW and then go into LW and it will smack you in the face like a jumping carp! I dont know how to fix it but I do know this host jumping thing is not an ideal solution.

Well, feel free to post again if you have an idea how to "fix" it... whatever that is.

Going back to a large map map for 50 players certainly is not a fix. Having one arena locked and the other devoid of any reasonable action for many hours isn't either.  And what has that all to do with the EW and MW?

[FLS]

The off hours arena fixed a problem for many players.  The arena switch time impacts players who didn't have a problem before. It's not surprising that the players who gained a small problem are not as happy as the players who no longer have a big problem.

[Chalenge]

Well Lusche Im surprised you dont already know what the problem is since you do still fly in the game and I have seen you in the earlier arenas (for a short visit anyway).

The earlier arenas have people working together (properly) and no there are not enough players to horde. The problem is that in late war everyone flies in the same area as a horde. Literally everyone on top of a single base. That makes it really easy to find people to kill but the problem is when you jump into the group the cons that are in the perpheral areas never get seen due to the 64 con limitation (at least it seems that way) and gameplay has degraded to HO after HO after HO... Those that cant HO just ram you because they cant shoot anything with their systems overloaded (you DO know most systems are still not up to these types of engagements?).

Also... what you and others ASSUME is a small problem for me? Well I see it as a large problem because Im not alone in my expectations. As a user of the game I expect to be able to fly or GV the type of mission I have chosen to engage in during my online time. If EVERY DAY in the middle of my flying time I have to switch arenas then I have to take that into consideration as to what type of sortie I commit to which ultimately leads to questioning why I even try.

Again... let me point out Im not the only one thinking like this. Every day I hear people online asking the same questions. Why are we asking this question? Because a minority of players in Europe want a change to favor them and their gameplay. Of course... when those European players want to fly (in the time they wish to fly) they are not in the minority. Still I think there has to be another solution better than the one we have. In the end we all vote with our wallets and it seems like most people that take that option do not post on the boards and I think thats because a minority of players dominate the boards with their resentment of anyone new (among other methods).

Again what some people ASSUME is a small problem is anything but small.

[AWwrgwy]

What happened to all the good old "I can't get into the orange arena where everyone is" or "I can't fly with my skwad because the arena is closed" whines?

But hey, only the Europeans are benefited from the arena changes.

Let's see. The problem is you need to end in the middle of a sortie and start a new sortie? How inconvenience that must be for you.

 

Why extol the virtues of the EW and MW arenas while whining about the LW arena changes? EW and MW are the same as ever.

Enjoy yourself there.


wrongway

[EskimoJoe]

I wish this big change would get extinguished. The problem I have with it is the change always occurs in the middle of my flying time and forces me to either delay my sortie launch or cut it short one or the other.

Instead of what we have how about cutting down to one server? So if we are in Orange we know the server wont reset and we can fly as long as we like? Closing both servers is cramping my style.

Citabria's thread, titled 'I don't like getting killed but refuse to adapt my flying to the situation'
comes to mind. Perhaps you should adjust your flying time to compensate, or invest in a watch
and plan your sorties out?

[Chalenge]

Citabria's thread, titled 'I don't like getting killed but refuse to adapt my flying to the situation'
comes to mind. Perhaps you should adjust your flying time to compensate, or invest in a watch
and plan your sorties out?

You think its possible for everyone in the game to find a time agreeable to the arena change and to fly in that time?

And wrongway you think a bomber sortie with the new B-29 can conveniently end at any given time?

Clearly you two are not thinking. The problem is this change forces people to adapt to a constraint of freedom for the sake of a few people over the sake of the majority. The old way was bad for a few but we still get the whines about locked arenas (invalid whine there wrgway) and the problem is the new method is also bad. Not worse but just as bad. This solution is getting customers upset. Just because you boys arent upset doesnt mean others are not.

[EskimoJoe]

<snip> Just because you boys arent upset doesnt mean others are not.

I'm not upset because I realize that Aces High is just a game,
and we all need a good five minute break from time to time.

The arenas switching in the middle of a sortie is hardly an impact-
you're given fifteen minutes to land!

If you're so upset about this, why not simply pay more attention
to what time it is? Put a clock in front of your monitor and don't
up for a long bomber sortie if you know the arenas will be closing
in half an hour.

[guncrasher]

challenge only a few people actually complain about the arena switching.  most of the players actually enjoy having only 1 arena where there's more action than 1 arena with 60 people and another with just a handful doing milk runs or rolling bases.  and the people doing the complaining are becoming fewer in numbers.

I am glad there's only 1 arena, it was hard for me to come home at 10pm and having to play with only 20 or 30 because the other arena was locked at 100.  sorry but I didnt join ah to play with a handful of people, I want the hundreds of people from all other the world just like it says on the main page.

semp

[Chalenge]

Guncrasher... your wrong. More people talk with their wallet and with the "quit" key than with their keystrokes in the chat buffer. You are referring to what you hear in the one arena after prime time. The problem comes in the switch to prime time and from prime time to non.

Here we have a prime example of how the majority votes and then the minority protesters over rule the vote.

[AWwrgwy]

Guncrasher... your wrong. More people talk with their wallet and with the "quit" key than with their keystrokes in the chat buffer.

In that case, I believe you have it backwards or someone is running a company in the red on purpose.

Like my supervisor at work likes to say, "when you're in charge, you can do it your way."

Of course I'm sure you have access to HTC's books and bank statements and Hitech is just delusional.



wrongway

[guncrasher]

Here we have a prime example of how the majority votes and then the minority protesters over rule the vote.

have you noticed that in your own thread nobody's supporting your view? so majority rules and you try to over rule the vote?

semp

[Lusche]

Guncrasher... your wrong. More people talk with their wallet and with the "quit" key than with their keystrokes in the chat buffer. You are referring to what you hear in the one arena after prime time. The problem comes in the switch to prime time and from prime time to non.

Here we have a prime example of how the majority votes and then the minority protesters over rule the vote.

I'm very curious were you get your information from about how the majority really thinks. If they do not complain anywhere, but just quit... you must have access to some data we do not have.
Or maybe you are just stretching things a bit to support your own individual view due to lack of public support?

Fact is, yes, people DO complain publicly if they do not like something. See the outrage on the original arena split. The complains about dars. The complains about arena caps for years. In game, they do complain even more when something seems wrong to them. Only in this case everybody suddenly shuts up?  

And the wallet thing... have you also taken into consideration that there may be some folks that came back, or simply didn't quit just because of the installment of the offpeak arena? Just as you will probably tell me you "know a lot that quit", I can tell you: I do know players that did not, and some that even came back, because now they do not face an empty arena any more.

And just for the record: I am going through the arena switch from offpeak every day, and from peak to offpeak 2-3 times a week. I "suffer" from the same problem as you. So I pretty much know what I'm talking about when I say: The general impact on gameplay caused by this disruption, annoying as it is, is much less severe than the old setup. In the old setup you had a large arena without the population to support it for many, many hours a day. And when the caps kicked on, you had the gameplay severely disrupted for hours, not just ~20 minutes.