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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #450 on: April 03, 2011, 10:41:19 AM »
So you've seen pictures of "blown to pieces" containment vessels at fukushima?

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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #451 on: April 03, 2011, 09:18:35 PM »
So you've seen pictures of "blown to pieces" containment vessels at fukushima?

 No, Have you?
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #452 on: April 04, 2011, 12:21:18 AM »
You made the claim.....figured you would attempt to back it up.

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« Reply #453 on: April 04, 2011, 11:20:52 AM »
You made the claim.....figured you would attempt to back it up.

I didnt make any claim read it again.

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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #454 on: April 04, 2011, 11:31:19 AM »
Well 1st, there will have to be another 500 brave soles to remake the containment for 3 reactor buildings to poor cement into as those buildings, the normal cement containment, have been blown to pieces.

Having a hard time reading this but....

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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #455 on: April 04, 2011, 11:42:31 AM »
Having a hard time reading this but....
Seems perfectly fine to me... go slowly :aok

You have to have something to poor cement into right? to contain the cement right?.... any bells going off yet?

The buildings are the FORMS for the cement. 3 of 4 buildings are gone...those buildings/forms will have to be replaced to poor cement into.   
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #456 on: April 04, 2011, 06:30:33 PM »
Seems perfectly fine to me... go slowly :aok

You have to have something to poor cement into right? to contain the cement right?.... any bells going off yet?

The buildings are the FORMS for the cement. 3 of 4 buildings are gone...those buildings/forms will have to be replaced to poor cement into.  


Reactors are a big can, which sit in a concrete can called the Containment Building, containment does not refer to concrete forms.
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #457 on: April 04, 2011, 07:20:15 PM »
Gotta get rid of "less-radioactive" water to make room for the "highly-radioactive" water.
I bet that water is tons more radioactive than a banana.


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Japanese Nuclear Plant Starts Pumping Millions of Gallons of Radioactive Water Into Pacific

TOKYO -- Workers began pumping more than 3 million gallons of contaminated water from Japan's tsunami-ravaged nuclear plant into the Pacific Ocean on Monday, freeing storage space for even more highly radioactive water that has hampered efforts to stabilize the reactors.

It will take about two days to pump most of the less-radioactive water out of the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear complex, whose cooling systems were knocked out by the magnitude-9.0 earthquake and tsunami on March 11.

Radioactivity is quickly diluted in the ocean, and government officials said the dump should not affect the safety of seafood in the area.

Since the disaster, water with different levels of radioactivity has been pooling throughout the plant. People who live within 12 miles have been evacuated and have not been allowed to return.

The pooling water has damaged systems and the radiation hazard has prevented workers from getting close enough to power up cooling systems needed to stabilize dangerously vulnerable fuel rods.

On Saturday, they discovered that some radioactive water was pouring into the ocean.

The less-radioactive water that officials are purposely dumping into the sea is up to 500 times the legal limit for radiation.

"We think releasing water with low levels of radiation is preferable to allowing water with high levels of radiation to be released into the environment," said Junichi Matsumoto, an official with plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co.

Workers need to get rid of the highly radioactive water, but first they need somewhere safe to put it. Much of the less-radioactive water being dumped into the sea is from the tsunami and had accumulated in a nuclear waste storage building.

The building is not meant to hold water, but it's also not leaking, so engineers decided to empty it so they can pump in the more-radioactive water. The rest of the water going into the sea is coming from a trench beneath two of the plant's six reactors......

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/04/04/japan-nuke-plant-operator-dump-radioactive-water-ocean/



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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #458 on: April 05, 2011, 01:03:09 AM »
Well 1st, there will have to be another 500 brave soles to remake the containment for 3 reactor buildings to poor cement into as those buildings, the normal cement containment, have been blown to pieces.

Go slower?

Ok, I'll bite.

Let's start with the sentence above that makes no sense.

Then we go on to the fact that the containment vessels are not the blown out buildings but rather some extremely strong (many feet thick) "containers" in which just the cap on top by itself is nearly 1,000,000 pounds in weight.

The thin outer buildings are not the containment for the reactors.


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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #459 on: April 05, 2011, 04:54:09 AM »
Fukushima Daiichi Reactors 5-6 Stability Under Threat 04.04.11

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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #460 on: April 05, 2011, 05:06:25 AM »
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7.5 mil. times legal limit of iodine in sea

The operator of the stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant says 7.5 million times the legal limit of radioactive iodine 131 has been detected from samples of seawater near the plant.

Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO, found on Saturday that contaminated water was leaking from a cracked concrete pit near the No. 2 reactor.

Experts say this makes it clear that highly radioactive substances from the reactor are flowing into the sea, and that the leak must be stopped as soon as possible.

The utility firm said samples of water taken near the water intake of the No. 2 reactor at 11:50 AM Saturday contained 300,000 becquerels of iodine 131 per cubic centimeter, or 7.5 million times the legal limit.
TEPCO said the figure had dropped to 200,000 becquerels per cubic centimeter, or 5 million times the legal limit, in samples taken at 9:00 AM Monday.

Monday's sample also contained 1.1 million times the legal limit of cesium 137, which has a half life of 30 years.

On March 27th, 13-million becquerels of iodine 131 per cubic centimeter of water were detected in the turbine building of the No. 2 reactor. On Wednesday, water was found accumulated in a tunnel near the turbine building and the radiation level on the surface was measured at more than 1,000 millisieverts per hour.

The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency says it believes the radioactive substances are from nuclear fuel which leaked from the reactor into the water and flowed out.

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 15:10 +0900 (JST)
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #461 on: April 05, 2011, 05:44:02 AM »
I doubt TEPCO will have the needed $ for restoration, i mean in combination with the Earthquake disaster combined with the Nuclear Plants Problems
now, even today Ukraine and Belarus spend some 5 percent of their national budgets on Chernobyl every year. I dont know where this will lead Japan :(
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #462 on: April 05, 2011, 12:44:58 PM »
Go slower?

The thin outer buildings are not the containment for the reactors


I never said they were, you have a reading comprehension problem.  :lol


Yes those "containers"/ reactors/containment buildings are going to be buried like a sarcophagus in 50' of cement. What will hold the new cement they will poor?
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #463 on: April 05, 2011, 07:30:24 PM »
Some good news to post :
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Radioactive Water in Japan No Longer Leaking into Pacific Ocean


TEPCO announced Tuesday it has stopped leaks of high radiation water from the crippled Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant into the Pacific Ocean.

The operator of the plant injected a hardening agent beneath a leaking concrete pit in hopes to stem the flow of radioactive water, according to Japan news agency NHK.

The announcement comes after reports that samples taken seawater near one of the plant's reactors contained contained 7.5 million times the legal limit for radioactive iodine on April 2. Two days later, that figure dropped to 5 million...........
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/04/05/radiation-level-japan-seawater-millions-times-legal-limit/
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Re: Japan Earthquake News
« Reply #464 on: April 05, 2011, 09:49:26 PM »
I never said they were, you have a reading comprehension problem.  :lol


Yes those "containers"/ reactors/containment buildings are going to be buried like a sarcophagus in 50' of cement. What will hold the new cement they will poor?
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It's right here below.

Well 1st, there will have to be another 500 brave soles to remake the containment for 3 reactor buildings to poor cement into as those buildings, the normal cement containment, have been blown to pieces.

Even if undamaged, those buildings not be able to contain pouring them full of concrete......because the buildings themselves are only there to keep cover what is inside.  

At this point, I feel you are just trolling and will stop responding to you because it counterproductive to this topic.
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