Worst A/C of ww2

[Debrody]

And a certain Hungarian lawyer.

Who are you talking about?

[MiloMorai]

Who are you talking about?

What, you have not heard of the infamous Bararossa Isegrim, aka Barbi, aka VO101 Isegrim, aka VO101 Kurfurst, aka Kurfurst from Budapest.

[MiloMorai]

German a/c production,
http://www.ordersofbattle.darkscape.net/site/sturmvogel/exhibit.html

[Ack-Ack]

What, you have not heard of the infamous Bararossa Isegrim, aka Barbi, aka VO101 Isegrim, aka VO101 Kurfurst, aka Kurfurst from Budapest.

Hehe Kurfurst...I bet he cries a bit every day because Germany lost.

ack-ack

[Ardy123]

Hehe Kurfurst...I bet he cries a bit every day because Germany lost.

ack-ack

He runs that Kurfurst website correct? Whats his story?, he was before my time at AH..

[Debrody]

Never heard about him. I know about that 109 performance site tho.
Hungarians arent crying becouse Germany lost. We lost way more than Germany. I wont break the rule about politics here.
Just google what was the peace threaty of Trianon.

[Ack-Ack]

Hungarians arent crying becouse Germany lost.

when I mentioned Kurfurst, my reference was to him crying and not Hungarians as a whole.  Kurfurst was, to put it mildly a Luftwhiner and a historical revisionist.

ack-ack

[Gianlupo]

Also, and it may have come up in the intervening 6 pages (I'll wait for the movie to come out), I don't see how we can have this discussion without the Devastator getting a nomination.

It got it.

Breda Ba.88
Boulton Paul Defiant
TBD Devastator

I'm sure more will come to mind

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=2462&page=3&highlight=neubau+109

See Post #28 for a file showing all neubau.

Milo, could you please post that file in here? One can download it from that forum only if one's logged in.

[MiloMorai]

I would if I knew how Gianlupo.

Worth while to register on that site, though.

[Oldman731]

when I mentioned Kurfurst, my reference was to him crying and not Hungarians as a whole.  Kurfurst was, to put it mildly a Luftwhiner and a historical revisionist.

And a nasty, mean-spirited SOB, too.

- oldman

[JunkyII]

BF109K4...definately worst plane of WW2

[Grendel]

BF109K4...definately worst plane of WW2

Worse than Blackburn Roc? Amazing...

[Ardy123]

BF109K4...definately worst plane of WW2

actually there is some truth to this...

A good plane in ww2 would need to be easy to get kills in for low skilled pilots. By this definition, the Spitfire is the first ride that comes to mind. Remember, most WW2 pilots had a lot less 'practice' than we do in our cartoon world. K4s are hard to fly effectively and hard to aim but if flown correctly, they can rack up kills. So the K4 is a very capable aircraft but not a good aircraft for the job, as the amount of stick time needed in it to do well.

[Karnak]

In Bob Doe's first combat, flying the Spitfire Mk Ia during the Battle of Britain, having only ever fired 30 rounds into the channel and being sure he was the worst pilot in the squadron and going to die, he shot down two Bf110C-4s.

[33Vortex]

Bob Doe was lucky he was up against Bf110s for his first encounter. Others, were not so lucky. Luck has a lot to do with it, like how Hartmann despite his own potentially fatal mistakes in his first combat survived, learned the lesson and went on to become the most successful fighter pilot of all time.