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[Masherbrum]

If you wish to reclaim whatever shred of dignity you have left, please support your point.  I will support mine.

Making computers and robots is not "stupid".  Computers run almost any car with nowadays; unless you're an antique collector, understanding your CPU is quite important when tuning.  In fact, without your CPU, your engine would overheat, cracking the block.  You can already see how important computers are to cars.

Digging a trench can be made easier by using a computer to plan it (assuming that it is a long enough trench).  Have you ever heard of the Engineering Design Process?  It entails quite a bit of mental legwork before you even touch that shovel.  The trench needs definite dimesions, and must fit within the surrounding obstacles.  A computer can model those surroundings and make digging the trench a simple matter of following the plan.

If you consider building computers and robots stupid, consier this as well.  One who could be considered the brightest in the county (he is 16 and a sophmore in college), is still baffled by technical problems arising from the building of our school's robot for our F.I.R.S.T. competition.  Building a computer isn't easy, either.

To build a computer, one must put together a dizzying array of parts, screws and delicate components.  Firstly, you will need (at least for a desktop) a motherboard to hook it all into, and then: a power cord, a hardrive, RAM, graphics card, mouse, keyboard, monitor, input jacks, output jacks, power button, CD/DVD drive, cooling fan(s), processor, and the wires, screws and aluminum to connect it all.

All technical things require intelligence, do not let your limited knowledge of a field allow you to assume its simplicity.

-Penguin

-Penguin

Irony is a wonderful thing.

[Penguin]

Thanks for the spellcheck.  Care to make a point of any substance?

If you are bent on having perfect spelling, here is my fixed post.

If you wish to reclaim whatever shred of dignity you have left, please support your point.  I will support mine.

Making computers and robots is not "stupid".  Computers run almost any car with nowadays; unless you're an antique collector, understanding your CPU is quite important when tuning.  In fact, without your CPU, your engine would overheat, cracking the block.  You can already see how important computers are to cars.

Digging a trench can be made easier by using a computer to plan it (assuming that it is a long enough trench).  Have you ever heard of the Engineering Design Process?  It entails quite a bit of mental legwork before you even touch that shovel.  The trench needs definite dimensions, and must fit within the surrounding obstacles.  A computer can model those surroundings and make digging the trench a simple matter of following the plan.

If you consider building computers and robots stupid, consider this as well.  One who could be considered the brightest in the county (he is 16 and a sophomore in college), is still baffled by technical problems arising from the building of our school's robot for our F.I.R.S.T. competition.  Building a computer isn't easy, either.

To build a computer, one must put together a dizzying array of parts, screws and delicate components.  Firstly, you will need (at least for a desktop) a motherboard to hook it all into, and then: a power cord, a hard drive, RAM, graphics card, mouse, keyboard, monitor, input jacks, output jacks, power button, CD/DVD drive, cooling fan(s), processor, and the wires, screws and aluminum to connect it all.

All technical things require intelligence, do not let your limited knowledge of a field allow you to assume its simplicity.

-Penguin

My spelling errors are beside the point.  I ask you again, please come up with an intelligent rebuttal.

-Penguin

PS LET THE GAMES, BEGIN! 

[dedalos]

Thanks for the spellcheck.  Care to make a point of any substance?

If you are bent on having perfect spelling, here is my fixed post.

If you wish to reclaim whatever shred of dignity you have left, please support your point.  I will support mine.

Making computers and robots is not "stupid".  Computers run almost any car with nowadays; unless you're an antique collector, understanding your CPU is quite important when tuning.  In fact, without your CPU, your engine would overheat, cracking the block.  You can already see how important computers are to cars.

Digging a trench can be made easier by using a computer to plan it (assuming that it is a long enough trench).  Have you ever heard of the Engineering Design Process?  It entails quite a bit of mental legwork before you even touch that shovel.  The trench needs definite dimensions, and must fit within the surrounding obstacles.  A computer can model those surroundings and make digging the trench a simple matter of following the plan.

If you consider building computers and robots stupid, consider this as well.  One who could be considered the brightest in the county (he is 16 and a sophomore in college), is still baffled by technical problems arising from the building of our school's robot for our F.I.R.S.T. competition.  Building a computer isn't easy, either.

To build a computer, one must put together a dizzying array of parts, screws and delicate components.  Firstly, you will need (at least for a desktop) a motherboard to hook it all into, and then: a power cord, a hard drive, RAM, graphics card, mouse, keyboard, monitor, input jacks, output jacks, power button, CD/DVD drive, cooling fan(s), processor, and the wires, screws and aluminum to connect it all.

All technical things require intelligence, do not let your limited knowledge of a field allow you to assume its simplicity.

-Penguin

My spelling errors are beside the point.  I ask you again, please come up with an intelligent rebuttal.

-Penguin

PS LET THE GAMES, BEGIN! 

   I would drop it while there is still time.  Then again, you could teach me a bit about computers.  Maybe I ll be able to get my VCR to stop flashing 12:00 all the time.  Stupid computer don;t even know what time it is unless I tell it.

[dedalos]

Irony is a wonderful thing.

 

[Masherbrum]

[dedalos]

Did you ever not go fishing and still catch a big one?

[Masherbrum]

Did you ever not go fishing and still catch a big one?

Absolutely!!   

[Penguin]

  I would drop it while there is still time.  Then again, you could teach me a bit about computers.  Maybe I ll be able to get my VCR to stop flashing 12:00 all the time.  Stupid computer don;t even know what time it is unless I tell it.

Stupid trench doesn't exist unless I dig it...

Trenches and Computers are both human inventions, they require us to think of and build them.  Of course the computer needs you to set the time, how should it know where it is?

-Penguin

[mtnman]

Stupid trench doesn't exist unless I dig it...

Trenches and Computers are both human inventions, they require us to think of and build them.  Of course the computer needs you to set the time, how should it know where it is?

-Penguin

How does the computer know where the trench needs to go?  Doesn't someone need to tell it that too?

[dedalos]

Stupid trench doesn't exist unless I dig it...

Trenches and Computers are both human inventions, they require us to think of and build them.  Of course the computer needs you to set the time, how should it know where it is?

-Penguin

Um, it does have a clock you know.  Why can't it just look it up?

[gyrene81]

Stupid trench doesn't exist unless I dig it...

Trenches and Computers are both human inventions, they require us to think of and build them.  Of course the computer needs you to set the time, how should it know where it is?

-Penguin

Actually the trench is not a human invention, it's a process of erosion in nature that humans have learned to do in a more logical manner for convenience.

The trench is easy enough even you could do it. The computer requires the work of many to get right so that just one 1d10t can look at pictures. Over the course of time the 1d10t forgets how to read or write anything that isn't grossly and improperly abbreviated or has lol in it. However the trench digger has learned how to communicate both verbally and in writing and is now telling the 1d10t how and where to dig the trench.

[Penguin]

Yes, a computer is a tool.  It needs a human being to operate it (apart from things such as AI- another can of worms).  I never said that computers are all powerful beings capable of doing anything and everything.  I said that building computers and designing trenches requires intelligence.

Um, it does have a clock you know.  Why can't it just look it up?

Yes, but when you take it out of the box, it asks you what time it is.  From then on, if you move across time zones it will require that you reset the clock.  Otherwise, it should keep the time nearly perfectly (assuming it updates itself from the internet).

Actually the trench is not a human invention, it's a process of erosion in nature that humans have learned to do in a more logical manner for convenience.

The trench is easy enough even you could do it. The computer requires the work of many to get right so that just one 1d10t can look at pictures. Over the course of time the 1d10t forgets how to read or write anything that isn't grossly and improperly abbreviated or has lol in it. However the trench digger has learned how to communicate both verbally and in writing and is now telling the 1d10t how and where to dig the trench.

I apologize, I incorrectly assumed we were referring to man-made trenches.  Yes, trenches can be formed by erosion- but for the sake of the argument let's assume that they are man-made. 

You are also extrapolating the results of many trials from the results of one (possibly a friend's).  You are also exaggerating and fear mongering.  What you are saying simply isn't true.  Look at the forum community, there are plenty of intelligent people who use computers.  Furthermore, if this effect is so powerful, why can you read what I say?

-Penguin

[dedalos]

Yes, a computer is a tool.  It needs a human being to operate it (apart from things such as AI- another can of worms).  I never said that computers are all powerful beings capable of doing anything and everything.  I said that building computers and designing trenches requires intelligence.

Yes, but when you take it out of the box, it asks you what time it is.  From then on, if you move across time zones it will require that you reset the clock.  Otherwise, it should keep the time nearly perfectly (assuming it updates itself from the internet).

-Penguin

Sounds like it can't even keep track of time unless someone corrects it once in a while.  I don;t understand how people trust them to make decisions involving life support or trading and stuff like that.

[Penguin]

Sounds like it can't even keep track of time unless someone corrects it once in a while.  I don;t understand how people trust them to make decisions involving life support or trading and stuff like that.

It does keep track of time, it's just that if you go to a new time zone (for instance, from Eastern Standard Time to Central Mountain Time), you need to reset the time.

-Penguin

[dedalos]

It does keep track of time, it's just that if you go to a new time zone (for instance, from Eastern Standard Time to Central Mountain Time), you need to reset the time.

-Penguin

Got it.  At list I m still holding on to whatever shred of dignity I have left.  I assume you are young so I ll leave it alone.

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