cant stand the game anymore

[Shiva]

Why is it that it is always "I have seen some strange stuff by other people" vs "I have been able to do some strange thing in these airplanes" ?

Because people can't tell from their end how much of watching someone out hooning a FW-190 is the other guy maneuvering the plane and how much is spastic movement caused by irregular network latency?

[gyrene81]

Why is it that it is always "I have seen some strange stuff by other people" vs "I have been able to do some strange thing in these airplanes" ?

some of us try not to do the strange fishy stuff, while others live by nothing but gaming the game...

[mtnman]

In AH sometimes you never regain control after some of the maneuvers and fall for 15K until you hit the ground (with your airplane fully intact).

That says a lot about the pilot... 

But, nothing about the planes or modeling in AH. 

If you seriously have that problem, you could fix it with practice and a little study.  There's nothing magical about it, and nothing unrealistic about it.

[MachFly]

That says a lot about the pilot...  

But, nothing about the planes or modeling in AH.  

If you seriously have that problem, you could fix it with practice and a little study.  There's nothing magical about it, and nothing unrealistic about it.

You can get an airplane into a tail down spin which is almost unrecoverable.

[vNUCKS]

Why is it that it is always "I have seen some strange stuff by other people" vs "I have been able to do some strange thing in these airplanes" ?

You may be very surprised what can be done in a real plane that is not done simply because if you fail the maneuver, the ground hurts very much.

HiTech

For the record then, "I have been able to do some strange thing in these airplanes", but fortunately the ground modeling in AH doesn't hurt one bit <G>

 

[68ZooM]

For the record then, "I have been able to do some strange thing in these airplanes", but fortunately the ground modeling in AH doesn't hurt one bit <G>

 

lol i think we both were last night, it was fun fighting you 

[Rino]

     I guess it's just me, but it seems like people weren't quite so "sensitive" in the good old days.  If you want to express
your opinions and ideas, why is it so hard to let others do the same?  Posting rediculous whines and then attempting to
suppress any disagreement about them seems the height of folly to me.

[moot]

It is all about the starting ENERGY.

Not only speed but geometry and timing.  You don't need to be as fast as the plane you're trying to catch, only be at the right place at the right time for a killer solution.  You don't need to follow the exact same zoom timing and geometry as a 262, not when you can delay your zoom up and take a "shortcut" to where you've got a solution from.

Also a nitpick: when flying fast enough, bullets will be slow enough in your frame of ref that they're moving like slow motion.  It might be possible to fly fast enough and fire slow enough rounds that they're too slow to hit their target.

do any of those twisty turny floppy maneuvers in a 109 and i guarantee you end up as a greasy spot on the ground...

Let's see some film instead of vague anecdote.

some of us try not to do the strange fishy stuff, while others live by nothing but gaming the game...

irrelevant to whether or not the hitech quote in your post is accurate.

[DREDIOCK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1GVpyHYwtM

A better example would be this one as its a single winged aircraft

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDAj2AV0534&feature=related

To be fair. a good question would be. Exactly how many of those maneuvers would be possible in a WWII aircraft.
No doubt alot of these maneuvers are possible. but also no doubt alot of these maneuvers we see in these videos are probably not possible in a WWII aircraft because of differences in manufacturing.

If there is a problem with the manuvers done in AH though. its not so much with whats being done. But whats not modeled in the accumulative effects of pilot fatigue that we know they suffered from extended use of such maneuvers. The G-Suit and muscle training wasnt/isnt to prevent pilot fatigue altogether. But rather to delay its onset.

Then there is also the accumulative effects of the stresses on the aircraft itself. (Back to manufacturing) that arent taken into account. Horse anything around long enough and it will eventually break

Here you can engage ACM for hours straight if it were possible. and not suffer from fatigue.

But this is a game and not RL

[Tupac]

if you want realism, wear a catheter.... you can even get disposable ones...
http://www.liberatormedical.com/catheters/lp/catheters3.php?uid=WM_GOOGLE_URO_CATHETERS_DISPOSABLE&wm_crID=5688538&wm_lpID=20132715&wm_ctID=338&wm_kwID=9854161&wm_mtID=3&wm_content=0&wm_g_crID=8174838181&wm_g_kw=disposable+catheter&wm_g_pcmt=&wm_g_cnt=0&gclid=CJCA29np6qcCFRx3gwod_QWubw&wm_kw=disposable+catheter&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=disposable+catheter&utm_campaign=urology+%252D+general+%252D+product

Made me shoot coke out my nose

[Melvin]

Made me shoot coke out my nose

The coke's supposed to... oh nevermind.

[moot]

If there is a problem with the manuvers done in AH though. its not so much with whats being done. But whats not modeled in the accumulative effects of pilot fatigue that we know they suffered from extended use of such maneuvers. The G-Suit and muscle training wasnt/isnt to prevent pilot fatigue altogether. But rather to delay its onset.

Here you can engage ACM for hours straight if it were possible. and not suffer from fatigue.

Reduced G tolerance with pilot wounds would be cool.

[gyrene81]

Let's see some film instead of vague anecdote.
irrelevant to whether or not the hitech quote in your post is accurate.

you're right, i honestly didn't realize you were a real live ww2 fighter pilot that did stunts in combat situations...i'm beyond impressed, you're a legend in your own mind...where can i get tickets to your next show?

[moot]

my next show is right here in this thread, where I point out plain simple rhetorical flaws.  Yes, apparenlty that makes me an impressively legendary ww2 fighter combat stunt pilot

[bcadoo]

Although this is not a WW2 aircraft, the pilot is a WW2 vet.  I think this shows what is possible. (especially like the 16 point roll with both engines off)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PftNh_SShlg