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Re: Base capture
« Reply #60 on: April 01, 2011, 08:11:58 AM »
Any squad can take a base in 3 minutes with overwhelming #'s.  Like someone said, why brag about it with those odds.  Try bragging about base taking when odds are even like Us AK's do but even then we don't brag about it.
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Re: Base capture
« Reply #61 on: April 01, 2011, 08:12:24 AM »
Do you realize that this implies that you admit that a third of the BBS population is better than the vTargets?  That means that the majority of the vTargets are in the bottom 66.66666666666666666666666666 66666666666666666666666666666 666666666666666667% of the class. 

That's an F for the majority of the squad. 

Doh.   :uhoh



SunBat, did you read the post?

The post reads
of the people who mouth off about easy vGuy kills in the forums

not
of everybody on the forums

While this is just nit-picking, I wanted to make sure the unwarranted smug grin you had on your face after that garbage post didn't stay there for too long. I'm just looking out for you, buddy.  ;)


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Re: Base capture
« Reply #62 on: April 01, 2011, 09:08:30 AM »
SunBat, did you read the post?

The post reads
not
While this is just nit-picking, I wanted to make sure the unwarranted smug grin you had on your face after that garbage post didn't stay there for too long. I'm just looking out for you, buddy.  ;)



The mouthy BBSers serve as an adequate enough sample set for the aggregate BBS population (and even the overall AH population for that matter) in as far as their flying skills go.  There is no reason why they wouldn't be a good sample set.

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Smug grin remains.  
« Last Edit: April 01, 2011, 09:10:48 AM by SunBat »
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Re: Base capture
« Reply #63 on: April 01, 2011, 10:27:29 AM »
No whines here :ahand. Just never understood why a squad with big numbers gets on the forums and brags about taking bases. Might as well brag about spitting in the face of a 2 year old and taking his cookie. Want to impress me? Take 30 of you best and try to take a contested base from some squad with equal numbers and advantage. Like the Muppets or Chawks. Good old fashion head to head fighting. Beat them down and take the base they fly out of. Now thats fighting!!! :salute

Gary, for every post that you can find a vTARD bragging about taking a base, I'll show you a dozen about someone whining about us taking one.  In reality, the majority of our attempted base takes are foiled by determined defenders.  On the other hand, no one has yet to stop them by complaining about them on the forums.  And frankly, the best squads and pilots in the game typically flock to defend against us, and often prove quite successful in their efforts.

Imagine how boring this game would be if we all just posted up at 20k over our own bases, and never bothered to attack an enemy base.  Our base taking missions, both the successful and the unsuccessful typically stir up quite a fight, and as we enter those fights we have 2500-3500 lbs of ordnance hanging from our wings, and we give up any altitude or energy advantage when we dive-bomb both the base and town.  Now it seems to me that this should be a literal feast for defenders that have the SA to listen to the little voice "base under attack", and are willing up and defend their base.  If they don't, we're as disappointed about the lack of resistance as you claim to be.  However, all to often nobody seems to care when we attack a base, until of course they get here to the forums.

If you wanna stop us, just bring your squad to the fight, as you've mentioned, we come to YOUR base, is it to much to ask that you be there to fight us? 
« Last Edit: April 01, 2011, 10:31:06 AM by vNUCKS »
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Re: Base capture
« Reply #64 on: April 01, 2011, 10:46:09 AM »
Gary, for every post that you can find a vTARD bragging about taking a base, I'll show you a dozen about someone whining about us taking one.  In reality, the majority of our attempted base takes are foiled by determined defenders.  On the other hand, no one has yet to stop them by complaining about them on the forums.  And frankly, the best squads and pilots in the game typically flock to defend against us, and often prove quite successful in their efforts.

Imagine how boring this game would be if we all just posted up at 20k over our own bases, and never bothered to attack an enemy base.  Our base taking missions, both the successful and the unsuccessful typically stir up quite a fight, and as we enter those fights we have 2500-3500 lbs of ordnance hanging from our wings, and we give up any altitude or energy advantage when we dive-bomb both the base and town.  Now it seems to me that this should be a literal feast for defenders that have the SA to listen to the little voice "base under attack", and are willing up and defend their base.  If they don't, we're as disappointed about the lack of resistance as you claim to be.  However, all to often nobody seems to care when we attack a base, until of course they get here to the forums.

If you wanna stop us, just bring your squad to the fight, as you've mentioned, we come to YOUR base, is it to much to ask that you be there to fight us?

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Re: Base capture
« Reply #65 on: April 01, 2011, 10:56:39 AM »

Funny, then, that members of our squad have killed you four times this tour in fighters and you've killed one of us once (plus one goon).

I guess you go right to the head of the list (just above Tralfazz) of forum blowhards who lack the skill to back their bragging about "easy vGuy kills". It's a lot easier to be a Big Man in the forum than in the arena, isn't it?   :aok

I don't like AKAK much, but I at least respect the fact that he, bunnies, and a few others actually have the guts and skill to back up some of their trash talk here.

You assume too much.

Of 49 days 9 hours (+/-) sortie time (~ 1185 hours) for your squad I have ~ 23 hours of sortie time

That means that I have 1.9% of the time to shoot any of you down, total.

If you want to break it down, thats 665 hours of fighter/attack hours to my 18.

Assuming every moment of my sortie time was spent in an engagement with your squad (which it wasn't)

That is .006 kills/hour for you guys against me

 Since I am at 3 kills (as of last night)

It is .166 kills/hour for me against your squad.

I can have Lusche make some pie charts if you get lost...
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Re: Base capture
« Reply #66 on: April 01, 2011, 10:57:52 AM »
Gary, for every post that you can find a vTARD bragging about taking a base, I'll show you a dozen about someone whining about us taking one.  In reality, the majority of our attempted base takes are foiled by determined defenders.  On the other hand, no one has yet to stop them by complaining about them on the forums.  And frankly, the best squads and pilots in the game typically flock to defend against us, and often prove quite successful in their efforts.

Imagine how boring this game would be if we all just posted up at 20k over our own bases, and never bothered to attack an enemy base.  Our base taking missions, both the successful and the unsuccessful typically stir up quite a fight, and as we enter those fights we have 2500-3500 lbs of ordnance hanging from our wings, and we give up any altitude or energy advantage when we dive-bomb both the base and town.  Now it seems to me that this should be a literal feast for defenders that have the SA to listen to the little voice "base under attack", and are willing up and defend their base.  If they don't, we're as disappointed about the lack of resistance as you claim to be.  However, all to often nobody seems to care when we attack a base, until of course they get here to the forums.

If you wanna stop us, just bring your squad to the fight, as you've mentioned, we come to YOUR base, is it to much to ask that you be there to fight us? 


That would be just great if there were usually any toolsheds left to fight with...
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Re: Base capture
« Reply #67 on: April 01, 2011, 03:27:57 PM »
why not adjust it so the Dar bar, is at 0ft, but has a celling of say, 28k, that way no more NOE, and if they want to run a sneak attack, they have to take time to do it

It's not an NOE issue.

It's a 30 planes at 15K, you can't get up to them in time when you see them at the edge of the dar ring issue.


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Re: Base capture
« Reply #68 on: April 01, 2011, 05:43:26 PM »
Dar bars stretched out will do no good. If I remember, it was more of a hinder being that sometimes it tracked you leaving your own feild eliminating any sort of "fog of war" to the game.

Fact is that everytime HTC imposed such changes, the desktop generals were at it trying to find any flaw or kink in the system to bypass it to still meet their objective.

You can blame freindlies for not reacting to alerts. But with the scurge of coming to the rescue of a feild under attack and just as soon as the defenders break cap and start well...defending, the fight dies off only to be horded somewhere else that is "easier" for them to take. Ive seen tactics used to where the horde says " well xxx is busy here so lets hit yyy"  and this is what makes a very very dull game.
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Re: Base capture
« Reply #69 on: April 01, 2011, 06:07:54 PM »
The mouthy BBSers serve as an adequate enough sample set for the aggregate BBS population (and even the overall AH population for that matter) in as far as their flying skills go.  There is no reason why they wouldn't be a good sample set.

Grade changed to F-

Smug grin remains.  

Your earlier post was (and is still) garbage. You misread another's post and leaped in with a comeback that was poorly thought out and didn't make any sense. Your blubbering statistics-talk argument based on facts you made up while adding that your "smug grin remains" says less about your intelligence than it does your stubbornness.

I did my best, but it looks like it's going to be stuck there forever. Sorry I couldn't help.

EDIT: And to keep the theme going...
Do you realize that this implies that you admit that a two thirds of the BBS community are worse than the vTargets?  That means that the majority of the vTargets are in the top 33.33333333333333333333333333 33333333333333333333333333333 333333333333333333% of the class. 

I take that as a compliment, SunBat.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2011, 07:11:36 PM by GNucks »

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Re: Base capture
« Reply #70 on: April 01, 2011, 06:49:31 PM »
It's not an NOE issue.

It's a 30 planes at 15K, you can't get up to them in time when you see them at the edge of the dar ring issue.


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Can't you see the "large" dar bar moving across the map towards a friendly base?

Why would you wait to see them at the edge of the dar ring??

I don't see a problem here.
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Re: Base capture
« Reply #71 on: April 01, 2011, 07:04:08 PM »
Can't you see the "large" dar bar moving across the map towards a friendly base?

Why would you wait to see them at the edge of the dar ring??

I don't see a problem here.

Because I don't know which base they are going to, the one I'm at or the one I'm not at.

Besides, "it's too hard!!1!"


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Re: Base capture
« Reply #72 on: April 01, 2011, 07:04:37 PM »
Any squad can take a base in 3 minutes with overwhelming #'s.  Like someone said, why brag about it with those odds.  Try bragging about base taking when odds are even like Us AK's do but even then we don't brag about it.

Hey guys, The other day, I was playing soccer and scored a goal, I'm so good soon Manchester United will be calling.... (there was no one on the other team).

On a side note... The other day after shooting down some vGuy who is named after a city in Texas got on my vox channel to tell me that he was going to..

"kick my prettythang by vulching me"

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Re: Base capture
« Reply #73 on: April 02, 2011, 07:37:42 AM »
Gary, for every post that you can find a vTARD bragging about taking a base, I'll show you a dozen about someone whining about us taking one.  In reality, the majority of our attempted base takes are foiled by determined defenders.  On the other hand, no one has yet to stop them by complaining about them on the forums.  And frankly, the best squads and pilots in the game typically flock to defend against us, and often prove quite successful in their efforts.

Imagine how boring this game would be if we all just posted up at 20k over our own bases, and never bothered to attack an enemy base.  Our base taking missions, both the successful and the unsuccessful typically stir up quite a fight, and as we enter those fights we have 2500-3500 lbs of ordnance hanging from our wings, and we give up any altitude or energy advantage when we dive-bomb both the base and town.  Now it seems to me that this should be a literal feast for defenders that have the SA to listen to the little voice "base under attack", and are willing up and defend their base.  If they don't, we're as disappointed about the lack of resistance as you claim to be.  However, all to often nobody seems to care when we attack a base, until of course they get here to the forums.

If you wanna stop us, just bring your squad to the fight, as you've mentioned, we come to YOUR base, is it to much to ask that you be there to fight us? 


I so often ask why are you folks waiting here go get them. Excellent post!

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Re: Base capture
« Reply #74 on: April 02, 2011, 10:38:46 AM »
I so often ask why are you folks waiting here go get them. Excellent post!
What keeps conveniently getting avoided here is that they swarm pork and leave. Taking the base is not really an issue, it's the lack of a fight in the aftermath. I'm glad a six wing megasquad has found their niche in base razing "Independence Day" tactics but you guys really shouldn't be surprised people are less than impressed when you head for the hills so you can plan your next sneak attack on the other side of the world. We get it's your $15 but there are quite a few people who are looking for an actual fight. And taking the time to up from a base to put a defense only to have you guys disappear as quickly as you came is pretty lame.